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Luis M.
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 05:16:12
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Latetly, i have been more and more interested in writting music, listening to classical music and learning and refreshing my mind with the theory involved in writting a piece of music.
I have loads of spare time, as i just started studying sound engineering far away from home.
I just had a tought now! :
I have been aquiring some knowledge in music theory,so, i could try and writte some pieces of music while on the train for example, and then pass it into Cubase.
Of course, for start, it would be just simple but well constructed melodies, kinda repetitive, to fit well into trance, the chords for the melodies or vice versa, and the bass using the bass clef..
It would be kind of making the basis for a track?
And then writte it in the sequencer and change whatever it needs in order to suit my needs.
Are you with me pple???
Do you think it is quite a challenge, althou nothing is impossible if we want to ?
Writte the basis, melody, bass and chords for a track, electronic style.. with just pen and paper??
That would take, creating a structure while writting on paper.. no?
Maybe with practice, something interesting could come up!
Tell me what you think people!!!
It would be nice to hear some opinions from the music theory pple.. Any composers here??
Peace!!
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moki
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 06:16
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i ask myself exactly the same thing.
and actually i came to this idea as i was listening the classics from the nineties ( i mean oldschool) and i was wondering if there is a way to get the notes of a track, in written form, like you have the notes of the classical composers. and then a friend explained to me about a feature in cubase where you can see the score, but it is of course only possible if you already have the track in cubase format or whatever ( i am not so informed about cubase anyway, i have to give it a try). and still, this is exactly the oposite direction - you see the score of a ready track. you dont write the notes which is what you wanna do. i would be interested in the possibilities about that too. i dont know, it does not have to be so technical and chaotic, actually it should be possible to only write the notes in electronic music too , just the score.....and there is probably even a software that does it, but i have no idea. there is probably even the possibility to put the ready score in a scanner and then directly hear the music.....
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 06:59
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I think its best to simply get a laptop along and write the midi files whilst listening to what you are doing, rather than noting it down on a piece of paper.
About getting notes of older tunes, just use you ears and make a midi file of what ever it is you wanna recreate.
I also have some riff in my mind when I am away from the computer. My trick is to just keep repeating it in my head (with filter modulation and what have you), until I get home from work, for example.
Who ever said men can't multitask, was very wrong!
This whole writing trance music down sounds cool, but it is beyond me, as I need to spend my time programming synth patches and then listening to the result and what kind of form the mix takes, as that will be the judge of how many more melodies and generally synth notes, I can actually fit in the mix.
Wish I was good with music notation, but I am not and I'd rather spend my time making trance tunes on the computer than learning to write trance tunes on paper.
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aXis
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 07:37
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copy till u own it ? |
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vegetal
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 10:12
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gutter
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 10:48
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Sibelius is just incredible, especially for musicians but theres so many things you can do in there, load a track, then the program gives you the score and the wicked is that it can make it a midi pattern with velocities(!!!)
means you can load an insane guitar playing from a virtuoso and have it in midi, recreate that with a lead for example, think of that possibility, its just awesome .. blow my mind (wish i had all the time in the world for mess around with all these incredible programs) 
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Zoolog
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 12:42
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On 2009-01-08 10:48, gutter wrote:
Sibelius is just incredible, especially for musicians but theres so many things you can do in there, load a track, then the program gives you the score and the wicked is that it can make it a midi pattern with velocities(!!!)
means you can load an insane guitar playing from a virtuoso and have it in midi, recreate that with a lead for example, think of that possibility, its just awesome .. blow my mind (wish i had all the time in the world for mess around with all these incredible programs)
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ok ... from this description it sounds like the ultimate rmx tool 
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gutter
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 13:00
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why not, if used creatively i think these possibilities offered can get you great results, like the example with a guitar pattern i wrote, but it is really a very "musicians" program, cause its some how very simple for people that dont understand much by pc, its not at all a sequencer like the ones we use at all, but being used with a little fantasy & patience im sure you can get great results & open new horizons
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 17:13
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first of all you need to decide what you want to learn.
using pen and paper is not a bad idea at all, get you self a clean notebook, Staff book or what they are called..
i say for writing electronic music you do it in a midi editor not a score editor though you could but it would be more suited to do so if you come from a classical background..
so to me it sounds more like you want to learn classical music theory...
when you have learn this you can involve it in you electronic music composition..
Its my opinion
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Luis M.
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 20:11
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I am with you!
I don't know!!
I'll probably have a go with something simple....
I don't know.. lolol
I was just trying to find a way to use my spare time, besides reading a book
jeje...
So, but, does any of you know anybody who does this, writting in the staff paper and then pass to the sequencer??
peace
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moki
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 20:38
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forget it.
i wanna have all the score, all the instruments and paths, as notes. and the point is that i dont have to learn anything, this is what i already know.
all the rest, with all the things you are talking about in this part of the forum, this sounds in chinese to me. i dont understand what you are talkinga bout. you see. all i know is classical music theory, playing, keys, notes. your chinese terms, are simply not for me. i wish someone could come to me and teach me, i am not really so stupid, i would grasp it fast, but the point is, i should have done it earlier, now i am too old for this adveture, it will not work. i have to teach myself alone, but it is such a jungle, it is unbelievable. i know only scores. notes. nothing more than tha actually.
but anyway, i need to see the score. it will be great. it will be more than great. this is the music language i know. i dont knwo anything about your terms here in this part of the forum, you are talking chinese.
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Suloo
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 20:47
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i dont knwo anything about your terms here in this part of the forum, you are talking chinese.
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there is no full score and there probably never will be..
so you have to learn chinese i think 
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moki
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 23:35
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but what is with cubase?
i was told that you can see the score there'?
can anyone give me any score???
please?
whatever style. just the score of all instruments and paths?
you think there is no such thing????????????
you just go to the score option in cubase with a track. i just wanna have a glimpse
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Suloo
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 23:44
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On 2009-01-08 23:35, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
but what is with cubase?
i was told that you can see the score there'?
can anyone give me any score???
please?
whatever style. just the score of all instruments and paths?
you think there is no such thing????????????
you just go to the score option in cubase with a track. i just wanna have a glimpse
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Check this please http://www.subconsciousmind.ch/scm/index.shtml
but you will see, it is very simple build and all insteresting stuff is done with sound design
you can get the score if you got a session of an artist for sure..but who really wants to give that away?
SCM did here in the link above..might help you but i guess it wont..
a lot of peaple here are waiting for the infected midis but hey...
make your own score
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jan 8, 2009 23:48
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use some mystical scales and type your notes in cubase via notation. That could work for you. |
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