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aje
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Posted : May 17, 2011 10:30
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Thanks for all the answers guys, seems like its a split opinion, some can turn it off, some can`t...I hope I will be able to turn it off soon, its damn annoying...however easier said than done to just focus on the "heart" when the left side of the brain keeps saying "I wonder how he made that sound, is this FM..." 
About the bad equipment, I felt that way long before I ever started producing, especially the more live the performance got, the worse it sounded. I remember at the Fusion Festival some years ago, which actually has really good equipment, the sound for the live bands was so poor all the time, probably due to a lack of proper soundchecks in that busy schedule, that me and my friends were gonna start a petition to ban live performances from the majority of the stages for the next year, because every single live performance sounded so bad that it totally killed any vibes DJ`s had created on the dancefloor...
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klippel
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Posted : May 17, 2011 13:02
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being a producer and audiophile sound purist i always run into the problem of sound quality.. which i would discuss independently from "cheap made music".
sound quality: event though i reaaaally like well produced sound i still enjoy music that comes from the heart, even if it sucks BADLY soundwise. one of my absolute favourite musicians is john frusciante, whose solo cd´s must have been recorded in hell and than copied badly a million times. it sounds sooooo rubbish i hate him sometimes for recording the stuff at home. cannot stop listening to it though, it is just devine music.
concerning events: i definitely do not even think about going to a party without proper ear protection any more. total nono. and 9 out of 10 party have a totally fucked up sound system (at least indoor, outdoor excludes the room problems and offers possibility to escape the speakers to a certain extent)
"cheap" music: what i mean with this is the commercial pleasing generic wank that some people like: one thing that does change over time is if you hear cheap made music that might seem cool to a "normal" consumer you cannot listen to that anymore, which is a good thing me thinks
anyway, you do get more critical to sound quality and inspiration of the music you listen to. try not getting into surgical mode and keep music an emotional thing that it should be then you will enjoy it as ever just more specific.
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Nectarios
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Posted : May 17, 2011 14:15
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On 2011-05-16 15:12:12, aje wrote:
...And my music taste has changed because of this as well, i actually enjoy boring but well-produced music because i want to hear how they get to that polished sound, and dislike inspired but less well-produced music...
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That's normal. Good production does not come at the expense of inspired music and vice versa.
Its the inspired music that is also very well produced that stands out. So get busy doing that.
Peace out.
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PoM
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Posted : May 17, 2011 15:27
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yes agree on good speaker the onyl way i can really enjoy the music is when i m not bothered with production. when it sound great it 's more easy to listen the music.
on my monitors music that don t sound ok i don't even listen to it,no way i can fully enjoy it.
the perfect example is when i m listening some of the spor tracks ,some of his track are just so well balanced at my place ,i can just enjoy the music without beeing bothered by some stuff sounding weird. |
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PoM
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Posted : May 17, 2011 16:19
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On 2011-05-17 15:27, PoM wrote:
the perfect example is when i m listening some of the spor tracks ,some of his track are just so well balanced at my place.
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checked his studio pics i guess the reason for this is that we are using the same monitors so it translate great here too. |
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bukboy
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Posted : May 20, 2011 12:38
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aje - I think that with understanding comes disenchantment. When you can do it yourself, pretty easily, then the impressiveness factor becomes minimal.
On the plus side, you can reproduce anything you hear, criticize mistakes that detract and you also become very good at impressing others.
And then you get the whole existential issue with being an entertainer of really easy to impress people and kinda stop caring and move on. (similarly I don't know how good comedians bring themselves to make people laugh - playing them like puppets, sucking them dry of their cash)
I then saw how these skills are used to make people react, and promptly inserted defenses and removed the ability of people to move me using the same tools and skills.
To me music became as emotionless as peanut butter and bread. I killed it for me.
Bit of a dead end.
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Mansikka
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Posted : May 20, 2011 14:56
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Nice to see that im not the only one suffering from delusions 
Seriously. It affects some of my music listening. Normally I have it "off" but when there is something alarming like one too high pitched sound or something else that tells me that mastering is wrong it gets "on". And it's not easy to turn it on after I start analyzing.
Most of this is happens only during 4/4 EDM. When I hear pop music it always gets "on". And it starts immediately to annoy me. All the damn top hits are arranged the same way, majority of them have the same bassline etc... Seriously, people are sheep. I think that analyzing can be good thing. It's part of not sticking with popularity, demanding something more from music. Something is really wrong when people pick pop over classical music. For example.
When listening in "flow" state, even bad quality doesn't bother me. And it's always different thing with some other genre, they have their own way of mastering compared to some other. There is this state when you enjoy almost anything, you have freed your mind. And there is this critical point of view. Both are good but don't tell someone that his/her musical taste is wrong (pop is shit ) when you are criticizing.
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PoM
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Posted : May 20, 2011 21:56
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we should have only one set of great speakers , it would translate better everywhere hehe but yes not possible...
after some years mixing our ears become so used , that listneing a mix that translate perfectly don't exist cause of too much random factors like the Room it have been produced and the monitors used, room where you listen the music and the speakers used... it s very random .
what sound great at your place may sound just ok at mine and vice and versa and it s even worse.. what sound great at my place in the sweet spot don t if i move 3 meters ,the balance will be different...perfect mix don t exist... the way to enjoy more the music is to not listen on monitors at first, beeing designed for the oposite purpose , on good hifi speakers the experience is way more pleasant. |
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Padmapani
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Posted : May 21, 2011 20:35
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On 2011-05-20 14:56, Mansikka wrote:
When I hear pop music it always gets "on". |
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turning the analyser on is the only way for me to tolerate pop music and successfully protects me from having those stupid, simple, annoying melodies stuck in my head for hours. |
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Cosmic Tandav
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Posted : May 21, 2011 20:54
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Upavas
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Posted : May 21, 2011 23:26
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It certainly is a predicament.
I don't like going to parties anymore, often way too loud, over the top with bad tuning of the sound system...
I seem to listen less and less to sound other than what I make, sometimes I hear something really nice and then I also have to watch out not to overanalyze ...
Like Makus says, welcome to the club...
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Beat Agency
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Posted : May 22, 2011 00:52
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You are doomed forever mate
Naaaahh actually you can sit down and enjoy music but I have learned over the years the best time for me to enjoy music without analyzing it is when I am tired. Best time for me is when I've been up 24+ hours. Then I can disappear into the music and really enjoy it
But yes it is more "difficult" (but I do not think it gets worse over the years) to listen to music the same way as before you started to make music.
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : May 22, 2011 03:53
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Im with the gentlemans Upavas & Makus , And i will say it with an more 'Dirty' way :
ONLY SOUND .. More and more and more
Thats what i care about .. Other things (Ideas and those) will come later for sure .
We are in the future sure music will be sound deferent , Everything is change around .. Not only music , Thats natural .
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Freeflow
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Posted : May 22, 2011 05:06
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its like you have a line, and if something is crossing that line too much or are above it you focus too much on it and can not hear the whole picture.(or see for that matter)
The mix is unbalanced(distorted or out of line), and you think man didnt he/she or they hear that, why didnt they fix it...
But sometimes you can be more forgiving, and sometimes not even get bothered and hear the whole picture.
People are organic and sensitivity and focus are always shifting, if you have a rush of serotonin you will forgive soo much and listen to the core of divinity.
But this balance exist and you must find and do your best to keep it, But even how much you try people are organic and focus keeps shifting and distortions keeps happening. This is why its easy to judge from first impression when in a state of not being forgiving and overly critic or distorted. But then there also are music and things that are dissonant and distorted in them selfs, so you automatically wont like it, but this music can work as a calibrator for your sense and make you appreciate things again and even raise your bar for tolerance on the line of balance..
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Posted : May 26, 2011 09:58
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On 2011-05-16 15:12:12, aje wrote:
Hi all,
since I started producing my music listening pleasure has seriously deteriorated, its kinda alarming actually. I analyze everything I hear, and the more I know about music production or the better i get at it the more I analyze.At first I just analyzed what track is doing what , now i listen to compression, EQ or whatever, or picking out chord progressions...anyways, its very hard to just enjoy music anymore. And my music taste has changed because of this as well, i actually enjoy boring but well-produced music because i want to hear how they get to that polished sound, and dislike inspired but less well-produced music...
I am interested what some of you really experienced producers have to say about this, like EP (Kris) for example. Does this ever go away, or does it get even worse? Can you still just sit down and enjoy music, can you switch the analyzer in your head off?
I hope this is just a phase every n00b goes through and then eventually i can go back to listening like i used to...
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really .i like musical sound in different ways..
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