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Colin OOOD
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s0ft
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UnderTow
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Nope.  Check out the ALSA project for soundcard drivers under Linux. http://www.alsa-project.org/
Most controlers use MIDI so that is OS independant. If your crontroler doesn't use MIDI, you might have a problem.
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s0ft
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Colin OOOD
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fregle
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what t(he hell are u guys on about?! jeezes, i should have seen this thread before...
here: link nr one, u can just go on endlessly from here... http://linuxaudio.org/en/index.html,
http://www.agnula.org/
linux has the same advantage over windows as mac, namely that it centralised everything that has to do with audio and midi (the JACK server), all the linux programs (like the increadible rosegarden, jamin,...) can just easily plug into this server and everything is easy to use (no need for 10 diferent drivers (asio, rewire, hubi, directX,...) all in one neat package).
Most importantly: every fucking programme is for free!!! And i know there are idiots out there who think this is inferior software just because it's free, but i can assure u it is not... Everything is free on linux and the opensource community (http://sourceforge.net/index.php) has long made a reputation for itself because of the professional quality they can deliver... There are even opensource projects on the pc now (openoffice, gimp) that can easily replace programmes that would cost u hundreds of euro's (mickeysoft office, adobe photoshop).
there are even professional studio's who went to linux because of the cost effectiveness and because they saw no reason anymore to stay with the expensive software.
I'm migrating to an audio linux system the second i can handle linux enough to use it properly. No doubt in my mind, not one second... And i think everybody should at least consider it as an option. It's without a doubt the cheapest way to have a legal professional studio |
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fregle
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btw, colin, firewire is much older then pc's (SD-link is the name for firewire in the electronics-world, IEEE1394 is the official name, firewire is a name given to it for the pc). Firewire is such an old protocol (like midi) that u don't need drivers at all... In fact, u can't play with the protocol, it's just as fixed as the midi-protocol... So there shouldn't be a reason for firewire devices not to work, unless they also need software that is not made for linux... But there is no such thing as drivers for firewire-machines (u only need a driver for the firewire-interface itself). |
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Colin OOOD
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fregle
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Posted : May 26, 2005 21:31
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hmmm, interesting... tnx... |
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Aldus B
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On 2005-05-23 02:59, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2005-05-23 02:21, Aldus B wrote:
I have a friend that uses Cubase on Linux and he says it works great.
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Please send a screenshot - as far as I know Cubase works on XP or Mac only.
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I can't send a screen shot, Colin. It's not my computer. Maybe he is lying to me and he is not actually running Cubase on Linux. If you are so sure that Cubase cannot run on Linux then please do not be condescending and ask me to send a screen shot you obviously know cannot exist. |
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Colin OOOD
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Aldus B
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When he gets back from Japan I will ask him for it. |
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between linux & win/Mac I think it's a question of what do you want or expect out of it....
Mac and Win have an enourmous amount of commercial software and associated tools for professional audio. Most of them are industry standards. Chances are you can select an industry standard tool and find it easy to use and convenient.
Unix have not such an straight street. You can like it or not, but it doesn't. It's true there are tons of free source programs and that you could find almost anything you need as a free source alternative, but that often involves a lot of research. I don't say there are not good tools; there are; but you will have to try harder to find them. And very likely, some of these tools will be in alpha or beta development stage... maybe too high a risk to depend on them? You have to decide! Besides that, to get a system to work under Linux/Unix, it's very desirable to be, at least, quite proficient with computers internals. If you are, and don't bother to spend time tuning your system, selecting your software, etc... Linux may be the OS for you. Linux offers millions of ways to change the Operating System behaviour to the microscopic level.
But if you invest some of those computer abilities to hardcore tune a Windows or MAC system I assure you can have also a rock-stable system and at the same time run the standard industry applications without more hassle. It's very funny for me to listen to some friends "in my windows it hangs, but in my friend's mac it doesnt" ... you take a look to his windows PC and found 40 online games, viruses, all sort of stupid utilities, word processor, spreadsheet, playboy online calendar ... fucking everything.... how the hell is it going to work???? Let me repeat: Spend time fine-tuning your system. Windows IS VERY TWEAKABLE, many people get surprised on how you can optimize windows for sound. For instance, I have 2 windows XP installed in a Windows PC. One is for internet and general purpose, which I have not tweaked, it's quite an out-of-the-box installatino. The other one is heavily tuned for audio. When I change between them I can very much notice the terrible performance boost. People often asks me "what operating system is this?" because it certainly doesn't look like a 'standard' windows XP.
One thing more: There's NOT a technical reason on why professinoal brands such as Steinberg, Ableton, etc etc don't release a Linux version of their software. Today cross-compilers and HALS (hardware abstraction layers) make possible to write the program once then compile it for Mac, Windows or Unix without much trouble. It's just a copyright/commercial/marketing/political question that very well can disappear in the near future. I bet in a couple of years we will begin to have good commercial audio software for linux as well, just like there's commercial (not-audio) software slowly coming out for unix. And I wait anxiously; free open source programs are cool, but commercial, industry standard with customer support tools are also cool!! I can't wait to see my Ableton Live working on Linux 
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Cosmos Mariner
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Posted : Jul 12, 2005 20:50
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wow, great post - thanks rupps!
can you point us to any info about how to tweak/tune your computer as you describe?
i've got a mac, but i'm sure pc folks could benefit as well
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