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Obelizk
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Posted : Mar 30, 2009 20:36:07
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~d2~
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Posted : Mar 30, 2009 21:00
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Check the volume of the myspace media player is turned up. Check that Any operating system volume controls are up. For example in Windows you may have a WAV output control as well as a master output control. |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Mar 30, 2009 21:42
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maybe try a limiter like waves L2 or L1.. then you can squeeze it some...
But like d2 says, check your volumes in the computer first... in windows - Volume control
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pilgrim
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Posted : Mar 30, 2009 22:27
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check them first in your ford fiesta car-hifi... |
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~d2~
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Posted : Mar 30, 2009 22:27
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I would personally not normalize to 0dBFS for my space. At the low bit rate mp3 conversion of normalized and over compressed files will come out bad. |
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Posted : Mar 30, 2009 23:25
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On 2009-03-30 20:36:07, Obelizk wrote:
I've normalized all my songs to optimize the volumes, but on myspace I'll turn up sound all the way from my computer controls and it will still be low volume.
Am I missing something?
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You are missing alot. Making loud tracks (that sound good at the same time) is hard and starts at the mixing stage and then the final squeezing happens at the mastering phase. |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Mar 30, 2009 23:33
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On 2009-03-30 22:27, pilgrim wrote:
check them first in your ford fiesta car-hifi...
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yeah its great advice to try it in other systems, like cd players, even record to tape, check it out  and get a idea of the material.... thats always a good idea!
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d2 - yeah its always good to keep headroom for other compression... some can probably introduce clipping..
there are many factors that has to be considered..
One thing i noticed in a track im working on right now is that the Rms of the kick and bass is way to high compared too peak meters. so i have to do some remixing 
sometimes its hard too get a good universal mix
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Kane
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 02:46
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The term "normalization" is pretty misleading..it generally doesn't optimize the volume at all.
Normalization - taking the peak of the entire track and raising it (along with the rest of the track) to 0dB. Raises peak and RMS volume, dynamic range stays the same.
Compression - attenuating (lowering) the volume temporarily when it passes a certain level. Lowers RMS volume and dynamic range. From here you can raise the volume of the entire track with the compressors built in make up gain and/or a brickwall limiter. Since the peaks have been attenuated, you can turn up the volume without them clipping.
This is just the basic idea..you'll have to search around for more detailed discussion. The mother of all mastering thread would be a good place to start.
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Obelizk
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 03:12
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Won’t limiting to raise the loudness also create clipping just as normalizing does when converted to mp3 at a low sample rate as is the case with Myspace music player? If not, should I just completely skip the normalization step and just use a limiter? Or should I normalize to maybe -3db then limit?
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~d2~
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 03:35
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Its hard to say an exact amount. Apparently it is not just the peak level but the RMS level as well. Over compressed music can also come out for the worst at lower bit rates. According to Neilsen and Lund 4.7 dB peak overloads were found at 96kbps mp3 with conversion from already "HOT" CD's!!
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Obelizk
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 03:43
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~d2~
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 03:47
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I would experiment and see what results you get with your music.
But if your worried about quality then you could use a different media player. |
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Obelizk
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 03:52
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-=Mandari=-
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 11:21
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maybe also try to get satisfied with a short clip of your track showin a nice part about let´s say 2 min.
i tried a lot around with that myspace player sh*t. as they compress after u did compressing mostly twice (to wave to mp3(i have to in Live, cause it´s not exporting mp3)) it´s pretty hard getting nice results.
so i took only a 2 min. part of my track with some fade in/fade out and bounce that to 320 kb mp3. maybe experiment with the length of your part, i think my file was about 5mb, so should be possible to take 3 min. or stuff.....
sure this is no "eargasm" but think it´s quite a lot of better than a whole track u need to compress a lot and which get´s compressed another time after u did. IMO, i´m also tryin around on that stuff....
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Elad
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Posted : Apr 1, 2009 13:22
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throw Limiter at the bottom of your master channel and lower the treshhold to (-2) up to (-6) until its start pumping and reduce about 2-3 db of peak.
if its getting into the limiter to weak then raist the volume knob (in cubase last effect is post-fader).
dont normailze , open the track and raise master volume is better.
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