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Music Distributors or sell it by your own?
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Serag
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 19:37:25
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I dont know if this topic already exists or not, if yes, so delete it.
Does we have to be atached to distributors or can we make something by our own?
Distributors sales aren't supposely 100% trust able, but anyway a lot of ppl keeps working with them so i wonder if this behavior is driving us to be the same point as the pop rock music companies that the only thing that they are looking for is to monopolize the music industry.
what do you think about it?
what are the chances to be successful selling your own product by your self? in difference of the the distributors?
what are the pros and cons?
tenx for any comment.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 19:44
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I'd think your rate of success depends on how willing you are to cope with the hassle of CD printing, promotion and shipping to places all over the world on your own versus paying someone else to do it for you.
I'm aware of a few distributors who employ various degrees of fronting the initial costs and taking it out of your profits to you paying all costs up front and keeping the lion's share of the profits.
As far as I know, there's not a monopoly. |
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full_on
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 19:52
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Distribution has always been a somewhat mysterious and weird subject to me, so I think this topic has potential. Please enlight me. 
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 19:53
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I think if your music is unique and really good or attrackts a lot of ears - it is enough to have even a hidden link to a side where only you sell your stuff.
There are anyways so many underground labels that this is rather funny than serious to observe this multiplication of names labels etc from month to month.
Big labels time of Spirit Zone and Co is over and looks like won't come back.
Of course this is only my personal opinion.
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psycho-italiano
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 20:35
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On 2009-09-27 19:37:25, Serag wrote:
what are the chances to be successful selling your own product by your self? in difference of the the distributors?
what are the pros and cons?
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You can always sell your music by your own , and its very simple and easy:
Just create your own hompgae (web-site) and sell there your Mp3 & Cds.
But!
The question is: do you wish that your catalog (cd’s & Mp3) be at best online shops world-wide (such as Psyshop , saiko-sounds, beatspace , beatport , etc…)?
If the answer is yes: (and I suggest you to choose “yes”)!
Then those shops will not agree to work directly with you. Coz Most of those shops needs new releases every week! Can you offer that: No. coz you are not a distributer that has many labels that have many release all the year.
And if you wish to be a distributer , then you should have lots of labels signed with you , then you can go and talk to shops directly and provide them cd’s everyweek.
Not easy thing!
So, yes, distribution is the best way for you if they agree to work with you.
But if not , then you always can do it alone, but its less effective for sure. Coz you should promote your self and your web-site all the time , while other known shops that work with distributers are simply visited non stop. So your releases would be more exposed there if you do work with them.
Warez sites & P2P programs are very good for promotion too! Yeah, maybe it sounds funny but they somehow promote you as an artist but screw you as a label owner.
And that's a natural process that you can't control and better not to be involved (in all matters).
That’s my 900 cents 
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a3k
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 22:36
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just look at the "thing" parvati made..they printed, distrubuted themselves their cd´s.
they made a test, and it seems it worked for them..but we have to see it is a label that has a long historial in their label..it is a label with some respect in the trance scene..the newbies have to have much luck to achieve what they have..
i think it is a matter of how serious you work to make this, and the respect you have with the people who work with you.
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kriz
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 05:54
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bbgun
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 06:04
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For small and independent artists doing it themselves is a must for survival. Revenue sharing cannot sustain psytrance artists. Simple as that. |
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 09:00
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For most of us here, the best thing we can do is "buy direct from the artist/label" themselves.
The option for the labels/artists on the other end of the equation is to form a syndicate/guild/cartel in the same ethos as the original United Artists was set up. The only thing is to be 100% transparent, and run it on a cooperative rather than a corporate basis. my 2p |
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Basilisk
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 10:18
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Braindrop
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 19:31
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On 2009-09-27 22:36, a3k wrote:
just look at the "thing" parvati made..they printed, distrubuted themselves their cd´s.
they made a test, and it seems it worked for them..but we have to see it is a label that has a long historial in their label..it is a label with some respect in the trance scene..the newbies have to have much luck to achieve what they have..
i think it is a matter of how serious you work to make this, and the respect you have with the people who work with you.
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It really depends on the reach a particular label has to sell and succeed at the same time on its own. This would take a period of time to acheive that kind of following.
Ideally i think this is the way forward for the labels to survive in future.
Having said that, distributors have advantage of putting your cd "out there". but to know what is actually happening.... somebody would need to have direct contact with the label physically, rather than just contact over the internet, to keep track of sales etc etc.
And i feel, Its about time..all psy labels take the DIGITAL FORMAT seriously... and start stocking their releases on all popular online shops in sync with the CD release.
Also, ep's .. singles...... try out something different.
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Serag
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 22:09
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what about printing by yourself sell it in your site and also sell it in the usual internet shops ? |
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Braindrop
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Posted : Sep 29, 2009 17:36
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On 2009-09-28 22:09, Serag wrote:
what about printing by yourself sell it in your site and also sell it in the usual internet shops ?
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Good idea too. but, For one to sell through a website, they need to have a dedicated core fan base and the numbers of this could vary... from 1 to 1000. Ideal way is to sell it on your own website for a more competitive price than the usual internet shops.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 06:01
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The best thing to do is examine some of the DIY success stories out there. Where are the self-made artists, the movers and the shakers of the Music 2.0 underground? In psytrance, there aren't many. I'm one of them, but I don't think there is any point in selling recorded music, so I'm not much help for those who want to do that. Who else then? Tom Cosm has a setup worth studying. Cosmosis has his new album up on Bandcamp at least. Parvati, sure. And there are certainly some other examples to consider... but I can't think of any that really stand out. It's just a whole lot of work to get people interested in anything these days. Doesn't bother me much, however--I've got that covered.
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mk47
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 06:49
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doesn't matter , people will still go for mycel
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