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Morning Glory (track)
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OMdma
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Posted : Apr 29, 2014 00:07:24
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after several years of non producing, i have started again to make a psytrance tune. Thought i post it here, mayby one of you guys enjoy it or spare me construtive criticism to push things foward. it´s just my evening hobby, so keep that in mind and according to this take it slow with flaming my ass after you heard it ;-)
https://soundcloud.com/omdma/morning-glory |
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smoker
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Posted : Apr 29, 2014 10:42
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OMdma
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Posted : Apr 29, 2014 12:05
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thanks for ur help and opinion mate! |
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RhinoCeros
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Posted : Apr 29, 2014 18:16
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Hi its got a nice vibe cool sounds and nice feelingto it,,, cool work man  at 3.50 the transition could be a little better,,, its all good nice work for your hooby |
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knocz
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Posted : Apr 29, 2014 21:41
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First of all, great track dude!
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On 2014-04-29 00:07:24, OMdma wrote:
mayby one of you guys enjoy it or spare me construtive criticism to push things foward
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I enjoyed some parts a lot in there! I get where you wanted to go, and there are some great sounding stuff in the tune.
I'll try with the constructive feedback 
First: the kick. It's got some boomy noise at the end of it, like some distortion or a lot of reverb, making it clash with the tune. So, I would either change the kick synth settings, find a different sample or, in last resort, EQ it.
Bass wise it's nice And, the kick and bass do fit in together good, so mybe it could be solved by taking a bit of the tail off the kick.
Then, the mix seems a bit quiet, lacking some room - I like how the track does sound like it has a lot of space there, but you could fill this up just a tiny bit to give the track a much fuller sound - like having a delay on a Send track, with a lot of feedback but filtering the sound in such a way it's not perceptible (and maybe you could append other effects on the send too  ). Then, you could automate the leads send knob so there's always a little something being fed into the send - be it lead A in one section, then automated to become lead B in another - this is an easy way of not only giving the tune a bit more sound, but it helps make all the channels sounding more coherent together (or at least the ones send to the send), and it can also create a third lead that sounds good in the mix (and automating each channels send can make you modulate this new lead into something completely different!).
I definitely agree with RhinoCeros, the whole transition from 2.50 to 3:50 does sound a bit dull and without much going on - a whole minute goes by
When I work in transitions, I like to take several passes, focusing on different instruments - so first the kick (plus bass), then the snare, then I go back on he kick and pay attention to put crashes (with a lot of control over the crash tail), then HH, then leads,.. and then I go over it again with the intent of going a multi-bus effects and build-ups (like multi track filtering, repeats, drops, etc), ad at the end risers (which I actually forget to put in - realize they aren't needed for most of my tunes)
It's not the best procedure, but I think all the buildups in the tune could benefit from this.
One the other hand, @4:18 Great build up! but again, from 4:45 until the beat drops you can do so much with crashes, automating the sample length! Since the crash has been used over the years to set the downbeat, it's like a tool the drummer can use to mangle up the tempo! Azax (old azax  ) or Kindzadza style turbo risers, it's like stopping the deck, and when used accordingly you can create a lot of dynamics in the tension, making the final release be ever so sweeter
@4:43: I think the tune need a different beat here - first you started with this "gallope" bass style, after the huge buildup you play an off-beat bass, then a small (but good ) build to ... come back to the exact same bass line
If you still want the "gallope" effect, one trick I do on some of my basslines is put the notes at Kbbb, but lower the first b note down 1 octave - to me it feels like I'm sucking the bass line up. And, if you place some sidechain properly, you can easily control this firsts bass note power and gain, giving it the pump you want
For the intro pad, I dont think it blends in that good with the tune - maybe you could cut out most of the high frequencies out (LP filter), so it's more of a vfroooooommm tone in the background.
For the percs, I like to hear more variation, which can easily be achieved using different samples (just listen to Hallucinogen for instance - tons of different snare and HH samples used in very interesting and unorthodox ways) - for example you could load up a second drum kit, and map a button or know to switch from one kit to the other, play that knob, learn that knob, record that knob!
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On 2014-04-29 00:07:24, OMdma wrote:
take it slow with flaming my ass after you heard it ;-)
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Don't worry man, we're all peaceful here Nobody bites!
Please share more of you stuff, this is sounding really good I honestly believe there's something there, and with a few touches, more tips, and work work work from your part, this could go to another level.
 Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz |
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OMdma
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Posted : Apr 30, 2014 10:28
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On 2014-04-29 21:41, knocz wrote:
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first of all: thanks a lot for your effort and taking the time to write that massive feedback *curtsey
that´s exactly the type of help i need right now!
You´re totaly rigth the whole production has no sends in it and i also felt that emptyness in some parts of the tune.
gonna try that delay thing on my current tune
Lots of great sounding hints, man thanks a lot!
...and not to be forgotten: GREAT TUNES on your Profile !
https://soundcloud.com/omdma
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BrainClaim
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Posted : Apr 30, 2014 14:37
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midimatik
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Posted : May 3, 2014 00:06
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