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Posted : Jun 27, 2011 16:25:07
Has anyone use them? which will recomend you getting first if it will be my first pice of gear?

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Posted : Jun 27, 2011 22:03
depends what you want.

both have similar functions, but are quite different.

MD is a drum synthesizer plus sequencer, MM is 6 mono synths plus sequencer.

i would always get the MD as first piece of gear. you just have more possibilites. the 6 tracks on the MM are a limitation, whereas you can easily write full tracks on the MD. i'd see the monomachine as perfect companion for the machinedrum, but not so powerful as the only machine to own.

also many people say that the MD is much easier to learn and handle, you get nice results easier and faster.

i have a MD UW mk2 and it was my only sequencer for a long time, did all percussions and fx and drove other synths via midi.
only downside of the sequencer imo is that you can't program slides within 1 track, you'd need 2 tracks, and that's just shit.

be sure to get a UW, without is a no-go. used UW mk2s without +drive have a nice price atm.
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Posted : Jun 28, 2011 00:13
would you recommend getting both at the same time, or firt master MD and then get MnM?           "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
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Posted : Jun 28, 2011 01:04
the MD is a very deep instrument and so is the MM. i guess you can spend years on them and keep discovering new things.

i don't want to recommend anything, because all people are different, but one machine at first should do it for a while.

do you want to use it alone or alongside your DAW?
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Posted : Jun 28, 2011 01:53
Alone, I dont want to use the computer for a while.

From the videos I really like MD, I will get it, my concern is how to complement it: bass, leads and pads, and some fx too.

So MnM seems the natural option, but maybe a little bit expensive and it will be for me pushing it to the limit of my budget.

Also the very limited polyphony doesnt seems very appealing.

So I was considering other gear like the waldorf blofeld. Or any other that is polyphonic and multitimbral, so i can do rythms with the MD and melodies with the other one any recomendation?

          "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
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Posted : Jun 28, 2011 09:27
ic. the MD is capable of great basses - sometimes with a bit of work and you won't always get exactly what you had in mind, but i always like what i come up with. the UW gives you the possibility to use some samples.

every polyphonic synth will serve your needs in addition to the MD, but i'd take one with a lot of modulation options.

the problem i found with the MD + 1 synth combo for psychedelic music is that at some point you want/need a multi-fx unit, a sampler for the sounds you can't make, a mixer with buses.. and it's a lot of work to program evolving melodies, pads and interesting fills and breaks, still doable. i ended up chaining 4 patterns (16 bars) as a standard, then it becomes a bit of brainwork to remember pattern locations when changing the blocks on the fly.

imo you can play and seriously make music on a MD alone forever, and depending on the style you want to make with it, you will want more or not.
i think styles like minimal, techno, dubstep, IDM, glitchy you can make with the MD alone without problems. but psy needs a lot of programmed details and subtle changes that you can't easily program into a MD nor achieve live on it.

MD is for people with active fingers.
it wants to be played and is brilliant at this job. it's just an average sequencer to hit play and listen to a full track.

for all the reasons above it was unavoidable for me to get a laptop with a DAW again. making music is just so much easier this way, but i will never sell my MD, i think.
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