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PsyJar
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Posted : Mar 20, 2003 18:03
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Hi there.
Due to the lack of processing, many times I'm forced to Bounce some instruments and effected tracks, so I don't have lots of openned plugins. I was told that effects like reverb, are the ones that consume more CPU. Even if I have a mono signal, normally, I use stereo effects, so that the sound can be eared at the middle and the effect flows to the sides (stereo). (this is just an example).
This way, my 'bounce' file, will be a stereo file. If I keep doing this all over the music, it won't take long to have large amounts of stereo files.
Isn't that worse for mixing? I mean, isn't it bad, the difference between panning (mono files) and balance (stereo files)?
What do you all think of this?
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Yuli
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Posted : Mar 20, 2003 18:21
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PsyJar,
It is a very good question u raised up here.. As there is no definity 'right' or 'wrong' there can be many approaches to the stereo vs. mono issue
I stand on the mono side  ... Many sounds can be mono and still the whole picture of the track will be as wide as u can get... Examples:
Sounds with a definite and deep bass such as bass and kick SHOULD be recorded mono ( unless u do panning on the bass with a delay in the middle or something but that is a rare story ) because as in it's basis - sub bass, and most of the bass is monophonic ( check it in a club - it is easy to feel how the high ends fly around and the bass is usually concentrated in certain spot and no much difference where u put the sub )
Percussion ( Hats, Snares, Tom drums etc., ) easily can be recorded mono, and panned one agains the other which creates wide and interesting stereo picture and alongside not too muddy ( as might happen with all these in stereo )
Human Voice - best to record mono
Ofcourse there are sounds that are stereophonic ( mostly effects and unison leads etc.. ) that should be left as they are since turning them to mono would only harm their feel.
There is much more to it, but on this field improvisation is the best, I believe
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Zimbah
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Posted : Mar 20, 2003 18:44
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If you use the reverbs as Send effect instead of insert on each channel you'll only have to open 1 or 2 instanses of the reverb. If you have them as inserts on every channel, it will definately suck up your cpu-power.
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medir
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Posted : Mar 20, 2003 20:37
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like yuli said, deep frequencies can taken mono, cause the human ear can t locate them well, so it doesn t matter if stereo or mono ( usually mono sounds even better ---> muddy )
and i use it as bus/send fx too.
normally u can say that fx which "add" ( reverb, delay,...) noise to your noise can be taken as bus, whereas fx which "change" ( compressor,...) your noise should be taken as inserts.
to spread the noises u can tune the input-controller of the bus.
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pavi
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Posted : Mar 21, 2003 02:39
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Stereo? Pah!
Anyone tried Brien Enos tip: "connect a third speaker to the positive terminals ONLY of your audio outs for 3D sound."
Pseudo surround? I dont have the third speaker to try it, let me know if someone does.
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pavi
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Posted : Mar 21, 2003 02:43
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To stay on topic, I think its so much nicer to mix mono signals, you can always double them up later for a stereo if needed. Maybe even delaying one of those by a few milisecs so that its not flanging and sounds realer.
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steve
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Posted : Mar 21, 2003 16:15
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Hi,
Great tips.. cheers yuli. hope this unplugs my shitty muddy attempts at music prod..
to answer superglues q in wavelab you can convert m to s .. file>save special wave>convert |
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PsyJar
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Posted : Mar 22, 2003 19:42
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YO,
Thank you so much, guys, you're tips were exellent. In fact, I allready use effects on busses, but I see all of this even clearer now.
Yuli, your explanation was quite clear.Thanx.
Please, one more thing!
As far as I can now see, real time processing is the answer. Everything stays as it is, or shoud be.
-Is this thought correct?-
Thanx in advance.
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Trip-
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Posted : Mar 23, 2003 01:17
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How can a sequencer not support mono channels? sounds kinda obscure to me. just assign some audio channels as mono.
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PsyJar
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Posted : Mar 23, 2003 02:19
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What's the sequencer that you're using, SuperGlue.
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hybridx
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Posted : Jul 11, 2003 21:48
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Heres another tip for making a MONO sample sound stereo. Have to channels playing the same sample, but pan the first one left and the 2nd one right. Now offset the first one only slightly so as not to make it sound all mushy. It should sound stereo. Learnt that from my trackers days with fasttracker II which always converted stereo samples to mono which was crap .
Yeah, I know this topic is quite old now...but I thought I would add this in anyway
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