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Mono compatibility

Medea
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Posted : Apr 11, 2008 23:32:36
I think it has been discussed before here, but I couldn't find the thread.

Just wanted to ask, how many of you producers check your mix for mono-compatibility.

I have seen the SynSun's video about production, and it says that, if you try to make you mix mono-compatible, it usually sounds better in stereo also.

Btw, I have an idea to try to write and mix a whole track in mono, and only when it's ready, turn on "stereo" button on master channel and check how it sounds in stereo, and make some corrections. Anyone tried to do like this?

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bandarlog
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 00:40
I do. I noticed that over the years as my producing and mixing skills improved that my mono mixes sound fatter compared to what they used to. I mean there is less difference (between stereo and mono) than there used to be. I guess better panning and less phase issues but my knowledge hasn't improved enough over the years to pinpoint why this is the case exactly .
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Medea
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Posted : Apr 13, 2008 00:24
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Elad
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Posted : Apr 14, 2008 05:36
try make the dry sounds mono then give it stereo effects , works great

also , concider to ignore the ignorants who listen with mono lol.. stereo expender give life to tracks but in mono disapear sounds ...

make a test , see your favorite tracks how mono capble they are

i found the best ones are completly not , specialy in the "high" level of house productions.
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Psytracked
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Posted : May 13, 2008 07:51
I think there is a good argument for checking mono compatibility. Many sound systems apparently run mono. I'm not sure how true this is in some of the superclubs but certainly the bottom end gets mono on a system with a 4 way x-over.

I learned from mixing guitar bands to EQ the vocal and guitar through the one speaker. That way its easier to shape them into their own little slot. Then a little 20ms delay on one channel of the guitar and you have a good foundation which translates well to mono playback.           http://www.whatacunt.co.uk/
FreakyFreQuencies


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Posted : May 13, 2008 20:47
Some producers creates both mixes: for CD/Album and for clubs.
I think mixes for CD don't need to be maximum "mono compatibility". Just be in stereo phase.

BTW I hear many releases where mono compatibility don't exist
piko_bianko
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Posted : May 14, 2008 01:00
i did not ever see a reason to do that
of course i'm speaking just for myself....

but again how could a vocal sample saying 'hard left' and placed at hard left panning, give mono compability?           extreme
Psytracked
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Posted : May 14, 2008 01:21
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but again how could a vocal sample saying 'hard left' and placed at hard left panning, give mono compability?




Mono summing, just hope the club system or radio etc utilises mono summing. This is why you should check your mix for mono compatibility. I'm lucky my 002 interface has a button for this. Nice and simple. If only everything else was.           http://www.whatacunt.co.uk/
piko_bianko
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Posted : May 14, 2008 12:57
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On 2008-05-14 01:21, Psytracked wrote:
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but again how could a vocal sample saying 'hard left' and placed at hard left panning, give mono compability?




Mono summing, just hope the club system or radio etc utilises mono summing. This is why you should check your mix for mono compatibility. I'm lucky my 002 interface has a button for this. Nice and simple. If only everything else was.




my morning job: i work for Audio Art (Greece) and we daily produce radio commercials, both for major radio stations and minor in small towns.
You know that advertising is super demanding.
Though we only place main voice centered, i think in the last 700-800 clips, only 1 or 2 costumers had complains about mono compatibility..

my point? as Elad said.. why in 2008 should any club have a mono setup ? even if it has, it's their fault then, not ours
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Elad
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Posted : May 14, 2008 13:30
yeah but i still check just to know nothing is gonna disapear completly


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piko_bianko
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Posted : May 14, 2008 13:34
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parapsyched
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Posted : May 15, 2008 18:55
its gonna take quite some time for 5.1 to be a "Standart" if ever. i never tried mixing 5.1 and checking for mono comp. but i guess it`s a nightmare.
plus.. 5.1 is mostly for movies not music which are most of the time played on the right system or at least stereo.
lets say u do mix music in 5.1 do you know how phasing is going on in the listeners home?
probably tons.
back to the subject at hand.....
its good. its easy and why shouldnt you make it mono comp. ? because you can? because we have stereo and surround now?
i think if you do go through with it the chances are your music will sound "less bad" in the worst case scenario you can imagine for a sound system , or maybe not....           if u dig deep enough u just might reach the sky...

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