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phutekk
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Posted : Jun 4, 2004 15:50
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well those mackies are too expensive... overpriced in my opinion...
but yeah, im ready to spend that ~1300e what those gens cost...(1030 or 8030 model)
20hz is fekking low..
genelec 1030a = 55Hz - 18 kHz
genelec 8030a = 58Hz - 20 kHz
mackie hr824 = 39Hz - 22.5kHz
m-mudio bx8 = 37Hz - 20kHz
hmm, hmm... the bigger speakers, the lower freq.. hmm :SS this is difficult... well... i'll go listen to different monitors.. im sure i will find monitors which i like ...
hmm... 
maybe you can NOW suggest me some speakers with good freqs? but what about the sound quality then? hmm.. difficult difficult... im getting worried ( 
and hmm... do i need a subwoofer? (yes of course if i want full range freq...but but..) |
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Mike A
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Posted : Jun 4, 2004 16:30
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It's not about the frequency range, it's about frequency response 
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Trip-
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Posted : Jun 4, 2004 19:39
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Actually I think Genelec are overpriced. Of course they have a sound of their own. Mackie are pricey, but they are a great purchase.
 Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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labyrinth
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Posted : Jun 4, 2004 20:12
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br0d
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Posted : Jun 5, 2004 09:51
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Yeah, seriously. Don't get sucked into the "dazzle gear." Genelecs are lauded, but most pros can mix on anything, and they often have to. The two most popular monitors in studios are NS-10 and Auratone, and both are considered pieces of shite in comparison to something like Genelec. And that is EXACTLY why people use them.
Your room is going to affect your sound a lot more than the differences between specific monitors will. Take a look at some of the specifications for the monitors you are thinking of buying, and note their EQ curves. Yes, they are different, but only slightly different in comparison to room impact, considering that a single bass mode in a cubic room can alter the sound by 9db at a mode point. I won't say they are all the same, but don't think too hard about it.
Just buy them and then get busy treating and/or studying your room. My studio is completely untreated because I was too lazy to treat it 3 years ago, and now I am so used to it that I don't need to.
IMO the biggest decision to make is whether you want to extend your lows with a sub (down to 31Hz,) or whether to try and compensate it with some bigger nearfield monitors, which reach down to 38Hz like the Alesis M1. I use a pair of Tannoy reveal (rated down to 65Hz) with a Tannoy PS110 sub because I like how it clears up the mids. HTH |
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Lithium
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Posted : Jun 5, 2004 11:43
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Brod wrote:
"Your room is going to affect your sound a lot more than the differences between specific monitors will."
Exactly
this is the big issue here, no matter what monitors you have one thing you have to do is to adapt yourself to your room accoustics which will for sure change any monitors sound.
Cause i don´t have money for propper accoustic in my studio i put blankets on the wall and the sound was completly different:)
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phutekk
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Posted : Jun 6, 2004 15:51
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thanks and ok, people. hmm
yeah well i guess my room is total crap and shit that i shouldn't even consider buying monitors  P or then i can always modify my room
how should the room look like? |
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phutekk
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Posted : Jun 7, 2004 10:28
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i think im going for m-audio bx6
but anyway, i will go and listen to different brands |
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Mike A
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Posted : Jun 7, 2004 14:51
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Just go for something.
Waiting is no good
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vikuna29
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Posted : Jun 15, 2004 13:59
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Ihave mackies hr 624 which are the little brothers of the monster 824's.. they are amazing!!! i love them and never get tired of the sound.. their settings and connections and voltage selections are second to none... and they are loud!!!
essentially what you want in your room is anything that will prevent echoes or traps so as to listen to the most music from the speakers and not from the reflections on other objects or the lack thereof because of a trap....
i highly recommend mackies!! |
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Ascendant
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Posted : Jun 18, 2004 20:55
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I have the Alesis M1 Actives and I am very happy with them. In my opinion they are the best you can get in their price range.
If you have a bit of extra cash, I would echo the comments of others who have recommended the mackie hr624s or, preferably, the hr824s.
There are a couple other things to think about when getting monitors. First, what are the accoustics of your room? For me, unfortunately I have hardwood floors and I've got a horrible reverb in my room. This means that even though my monitors have flat response, my ears don't actually hear a flat response because of the room. So, I'm glad I didn't spend lots of money on super-flat speakers if I didn't even have an environment that will make use of them. If your studio has good flat accoustics though, its a different story.
Also, I don't know if you have a decent pair of headphones, but if not, budget some money to get those the same time you get your monitors. Being able to hear your tunes back and forth in real time played by two different "systems" is invaluable. I'd suggest getting mixing headphones precisely because their frequency response *isn't* flat (that's what your monitors are for) whereas its more representative of how your track would actually sound at a club, and it's good to hear the difference in switching back and forth.
Good luck! The truth is, whatever monitors you get, you will be saying they are the best next time a "monitors" thread comes around, unless your friend has more expensive ones, then you'll be recommending those. |
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phutekk
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Posted : Jun 20, 2004 14:49
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Also, I don't know if you have a decent pair of headphones, but if not, budget some money to get those the same time you get your monitors. Being able to hear your tunes back and forth in real time played by two different "systems" is invaluable. I'd suggest getting mixing headphones precisely because their frequency response *isn't* flat (that's what your monitors are for) whereas its more representative of how your track would actually sound at a club, and it's good to hear the difference in switching back and forth.
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im thinking of buying m-audio bx8's and sennheiser hd-600 headphones.
whaddaya say ppl?
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Trip-
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Posted : Jun 20, 2004 15:39
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I say go for it.
Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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AvS
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Posted : Jun 20, 2004 17:52
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Sound like a good plan. I have the smaller Bx5's. The midrange and highend is very clear and accurate but the lowend is a bit unclear, so a pair of headphones is essential. HD600 is a good choise. |
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Mike A
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Posted : Jun 23, 2004 02:07
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I'm enjoying my Tannoys
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