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PoM
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Posted : Oct 19, 2004 16:33
hi all , i have some active monitors and i can t mix very loud , i would like to know if it s better to put the monitors input level at max and adjust the master level of my mixer or vis et verca?
i hope you understand,sorry for bad english
Trip-
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Posted : Oct 19, 2004 16:59
I wouldn't say max out your monitors' amplifiers levels.
My analog Spirit M, when monitors to output at very low knob level, the analog circuit introduces a pan.

Best working with those knobs NOT at extremes.

So I set my monitors' levels that way so the mixer at max will be VERY VERY loud... and at min VERY silent
and in the middle it'll be normal work volume.
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 19, 2004 17:29
i do same as you trip, but do you think the best frequency reponse of the monitors are when the mixer is neer zero db and the amplifiers at low level or all level in middles or the amplifiers loud and the mixer low? or maybe it s dont affect the frequency response
Hayez


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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 04:59
It'll probably won't affect the frequency responce, but it'll change the noise level (hiss). Without going too technical, Trip method is good.           "a new art came into my mind which only you can create, the Art of Noises, the logical consequence of your marvelous innovations." Russolo, 1913
Input
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 12:11
I'm using my monitors with full level at the monitor and control their volume in the mixer- seems the most logical way 4me,

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Trip-
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 12:18
Input:
I wouldn't tell you 'i told you so', after your console sends an unwanted sonic interruption one day - which might result in fried amplifiers and fried ears too.

Basicly it all depends on how loud you hear them when the monitor level is around middle on the mixer.
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Input
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 12:22
ok trip- i will try to change this- and see if it's ok- when my ears are involved i would not take any chances-

still after working this way for long time i had no such problems- thanks god          Space is the place
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orik
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 13:53
hi!
from most pro studios ive seen, the
monitors are crancked up all the way
in the input level, in order to get out
off the monitors there full ability,
but all you have to do is turn it down
by the mixer.
Spindrift
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Posted : Oct 20, 2004 14:18
How I understand, with regards to blown speakers, the most common thing to happen is that you blow your tweeters when overloading the input to the amp.
So the more power the amp have, the less chance of blowing your speaker.

And the amps do like to work a bit, but maybe it's not always advisable to have them turned up 100%.
My active speakers will start distorting if i have a loud output on the mixer and turn the amp to full. Around 3/4 is as loud as the cones can handle, and there is where i keep my volume knobs.

Can't swear that it's the technically correct way, but especially since i control output level digitally I figure it's no point to have the amp higher than the speakers can handle.

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Posted : Oct 22, 2004 03:10
I don't have active speakers so my way might not work for you...

I have my amp set up so that when the volume control on the mixer is turned all the way up, it's as loud as I will ever want to mix - any louder is too much for my room. This gives me a good range of monitoring levels between 30% and 70% on the mixer volume control.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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