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Fungophago
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 00:38
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monitor choice is a chestion of religion...
theres english (bass reflex in the back) and american sound (bass reflex in the front) i like the english/european sound.
go to the shop with a good cd and something of yourself and buy what sounds good.
i wanted to buy those adams but when i heard them it felt like having something stuck in your ear...
adam is definitly overrated and i dindt like the eves ether. those dynaudios sound kinda thin if you ask me...
just got neumann's kh 120 last week they sounded best to me...
also have in mind that if you buy big speakers like 7"or 8" you have to sit at a distance of something like 2m or even more...
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Upavas
Upavas
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 13:27
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Intersting choice Fungophago . I wonder how the Neumann would give back the bass, given that they are only 5.25 inches, a bit small I suppose, that said, they are Neumann... so some more feedback from you on this would be welcome...
Not sure I have to sit back 2 metres from my speakers. I sit back about 1.5 and it's fine...
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PoM
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 14:29
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I find focal too smooth sounding, almost like hifi high end gear, the Adams are better for critical listening and more unforgiving on mix mistakes, which is what I prefer, albeit my ears do get tired quicker... I have yet to try Eve... my next monitor upgrade will likely be Barefoot... and I will most likely keep the Adams as second pair...
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the thing is the focal archieved to make speakers that sound good and translate great.. to me it s more a archievement.but if you see it as a problem and like to get tired ears..
but these have other problems to me , not this one.. sound don't have much depth for example and low end is not their strong area but here could depend so much about the room..
to me solo and twin compare to adam S serie like s2x , it blow the A7/A8 but what ever work in the end..
you just got a pair of a7x and maybe used only crap monitors all your life and talk crap about dynaudio and focal ..come back on earth..some guys get amazing production with these speakers |
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Upavas
Upavas
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 21:26
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 21:28
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On 2013-03-22 14:29, PoM wrote:
you just got a pair of a7x and maybe used only crap monitors all your life and talk crap about dynaudio and focal ..come back on earth..some guys get amazing production with these speakers
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true, the dude seems completly biased about the Adam´s and understimate other brands that are very reputated, not only today but for years...
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Upavas
Upavas
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 21:36
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 21:43
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On 2013-03-22 21:26, Upavas wrote:
And I stick to it, whether you guys wanna shoot me for it or not, I find the A7X a lot better than the dynaudios... ok!
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what defines if a monitor is better than the other isnt if it sounds better...
but how well it translates the sound
the Dynaudio Bm5a for instance, translate well the sound and also sound good, there are monitors who have a very "forgiving" and pleasant for earing sound... but then absolutly suck in translation
do you like how the Adams sound? good for you... its nice that someone make music while its happy, but still...
keep this in mind you cant tell a monitor translate better than other, without REALLY REALLY test it, know its sound, know by experimenting in several sound systems the result
thats why i had the argument in the other topic..
but i think you will learn anything from this at least. |
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Upavas
Upavas
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Posted : Mar 22, 2013 22:44
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I actually prefer the sound of the Focals to the Adams, and I prefer both above by a lot over the Dynaudios, but that has nothing to do with my statement, you are putting words into my mouth here. If you read more of my posts, I have said a few times (and repeat it here again) that the Adams translation to other systems, hifi and pa is indeed great, add to that the fact that I can hear better what I am doing in terms of mixing with them and there you have it, the reason why (once again) IMO they beat the dynaudios by a long shot.
And yes, I did test all three and it took me several hours, breaks and so on.
So sorry, but you keep assuming here, you have no idea in what environment and how exactly I performed these tests.
Instead of assuming and putting words into my mouth I urge you to do the same test with your sound, in a good environment, provided you have something like Long&Mc Quade store... you might be surprised. So drop your ego story there and relax bro... have a cup of coffee 
Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/ |
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Mar 23, 2013 00:14
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no, no, no...
but i am not the one here claiming a "certain monitor brand suck and mines are better"
you are wrong!
thats what you have been doing... not me, dont tell me to drop my ego, i didnt came here to tell i am better than anyone or my monitors are better others, i am simply trying to tell that people shouldnt do certain kinds of statemente without more deep experience about a product, because thats wrong...
its a completly biased way of thinking, and this kind of topic should work for people consistently tell things about monitors that can help others to known or expect what they will find
and not things like... "herm... Adam piss over the dynaudios"
be mature please.
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Upavas
Upavas
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Posted : Mar 23, 2013 00:26
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Well, maturity does not seem to include putting words into other peoples mouth as far as you are concerned, so once again, watch where that crank comes from instead of projecting it onto me.... Do you actually know what imo means?
Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/ |
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Medea
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Posted : Mar 23, 2013 00:43
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By the way... About "how it translates" and blablabla...
There are so many artists, and they use very different equipment...
I personally can't remeber a single time that i suffered from badly mixed music. Bad music is much bigger problem than bad production. If the music gets released, in most cases it is well enough pruduced not to take much care of it. The conclusion is simple: no matter what setup is used, it's not that hard to make a good mix, if you have some experience and know how music sounds on your speakers.
And, by the way, the only people who really care a lot are other musicians 
So, i think that the most important thing in monitors is pleasure you feel while working wit them. For checking "how it translates" it's much more useful just to test your mix on a couple of different systems: monitors, cheap speakers, car audio, headphones. IF it sounds ok an all of them it will sound ok on 99% systems.
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Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Mar 23, 2013 00:58
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On 2013-03-23 00:43, Medea wrote:
By the way... About "how it translates" and blablabla...
There are so many artists, and they use very different equipment...
I personally can't remeber a single time that i suffered from badly mixed music. Bad music is much bigger problem than bad production. If the music gets released, in most cases it is well enough pruduced not to take much care of it. The conclusion is simple: no matter what setup is used, it's not that hard to make a good mix, if you have some experience and know how music sounds on your speakers.
And, by the way, the only people who really care a lot are other musicians
So, i think that the most important thing in monitors is pleasure you feel while working wit them. For checking "how it translates" it's much more useful just to test your mix on a couple of different systems: monitors, cheap speakers, car audio, headphones. IF it sounds ok an all of them it will sound ok on 99% systems.
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+1
and also to know your monitors very well.
by the way i was messing around on facebook and i saw that Mindwave use a pair of hs50m (!) incredible that how sound his music. personaly i really like his music (most of his tracks have something...)
...into the wild.... |
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Mar 23, 2013 01:14
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We dont need to go further, there are amazing trance albums released in earlier 2000's that were made in completly amateur enviroment...
just go check one of Cosma's enterview's and what material did he used in his first album...
and even for today, i think its production was very, very smoth and acurate to the detail...
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makus
Overdream
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Posted : Mar 23, 2013 02:36
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On 2013-03-23 00:43, Medea wrote:
By the way... About "how it translates" and blablabla...
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did you get the monitors?
www.overdreamstudio.com |
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Medea
Aedem/Medea
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Posted : Mar 23, 2013 14:22
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did you get the monitors?
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not yet, still saving money
but i think i'll get Adams.
Thanks everyone for advices, by the way!
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