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bullet_proof
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Posted : Aug 19, 2004 18:31
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dynaudio or mackies..please raise ur budget..wait a little while..work out the cost nd go for it..
u will be appy forever..
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mono mono
Onnomon
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 04:11
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In order of decreasing price, the preferred monitors are:
Dynaudio BM-15A (approx US $2300)
Mackie 824 (approx US $1100)
Alesis Monitor One Actives (cheap)
The Mackies are absolutely the best value for the performance. They can crank out 37 Hz without farting.
I have yet to read a bad note about the Dynaudios. If I wanted to spend more money, i'd go for these. Note, they're borderline mid-field monitors which means that to let these babies breath you need a bit more space in the room. Also you probably want to go with the active version 'cause biamping is generally better than passive crossovers. If you've got a really good power amp then consider the BM-15 for about US$1500
The Alesis monitors are workable. I used them for years but I found that I couldn't get away with just using them, had listen on friend's 824, and, most important, PA's.
Genelecs (8050A at US$3500 a pair) are too pricey and their faithful high/high-mid reproduction and can cause ear fatigue if you're plugging away in your studio for hours on end- which is what you typically do. You're better off with a set of 824's and subwoofer for the same money. It helps to have a big room to get the full mixing impact, that is getting your kick/bass levels adjusted.
I use a set of 824's in a relatively small room (about 12 feet by 12 feet). When it comes time to doing the bass level set I usually move the monitors into the larger living room and work from there. Of course i've switched studio operations to a laptop so it's easier.
There are lots of choices above the $4000 mark, sadly, most of us don't have the dinars.
-dean
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Psylp
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Posted : Nov 1, 2004 02:15
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never ending topic this one :]
i have a pair of tannoy active reveal which is a ok active speaker but it lacks in the top and bottom.. but the midfield is very very nice.
I have been working with both mackie the mackie 824 and 624 and i must say the 824 is one of the best speakers ive made trance music on ... it just has more that much more power in the bottom :]
another active speaker ive been hearing alot of positive things about is the active adam speakers with that very uniqie high freq. unit |
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 1, 2004 21:25
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Time lock (BNE)
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Posted : Nov 1, 2004 22:29
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i only can say my opinion!
for electronic music is better to use: dynaudio,mackie,event,tannoy ,blue sky,alesis.
if you making trance so dont buy :genelec, or krk, or quested or samson. theese monitors are for acustic recordings only, they have a week bass responce and different freequence range then the monitors below!
and never buy any of beringer products! waste of money!
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ii_Roman
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Posted : Nov 2, 2004 07:09
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On 2003-02-24 07:59, SuperGlue wrote:
what about yamaha ns10
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it have an excellent middle, but low & high freq not so good
To my mind Dynaudio the best  we want monitors of this brand 8) |
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Jeto
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Posted : Nov 2, 2004 08:25
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what monitors are better...
i have a choice of this two
Samson Resolv65
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Alesis Monitor One
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UnderTow
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Posted : Nov 2, 2004 12:18
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On 2004-11-01 22:29, time lock wrote:
if you making trance so dont buy :genelec, or krk, or quested or samson. theese monitors are for acustic recordings only, they have a week bass responce and different freequence range then the monitors below!
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Well you can give me a pair of these any day: http://www.genelec.com/products/1036a/1036a.php
They will shake the Mackies, Alesis, Blue Skys etc out of your studio. 
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and never buy any of beringer products! waste of money!
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I can't really disagree. |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Nov 2, 2004 12:31
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On 2004-11-02 07:09, ii_Roman wrote:
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On 2003-02-24 07:59, SuperGlue wrote:
what about yamaha ns10
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it have an excellent middle, but low & high freq not so good
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I don't like to work with the NS10s myself but they are quite ok to mix with. As they have a closed cabinet design (infinite baffle) they don't have any resonant frequencies like bass-reflex designs.
This makes them very good in the time domain.
Effectively what can happen with reflex port speakers is that they resonate with one of the intruments in your mix. Lets say the bass note in your track is exactly at the frequency that the speakers are tuned at. This will mean that the bass note will "hang" or resonate longer than it should. This will give you the impression that your bassline is louder than it really is so you will mix it in lower than normaly compared to, for instance, the kick drum that happens not to resonate so much.
When your track gets to the mastering engineer there isn't much he/she can do to fix this except to tell you to do a new mix.
With the NS10s, you might have much too much bass in your mix because you are compensating for the lack of bass in the monitors. However, the balance between the instruments is correct (they ALL have too much bass) so the mastering engineer can just EQ out the excess bass and you still have a good final result.
This is mprobably the reason why the NS10s were and still are popular amongst many sound engineers.
Now if I could chose my own monitors I'd go for maybe ADAM, H&K, TAD, Genelec, Dynaudio, Alcons ... in no particular order. Right now I'm surviving with a pair of Yamaha MSP10s.
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mono mono
Onnomon
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Posted : Nov 4, 2004 02:06
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NS10's were supposed to be desired because of their "radio-friendly" mid-range response. The maxim goes something like: "if you can get it to sound good on NS-10's it'll sound good on the radio". I don't believe they're noted for their full-range clarity and not generally a desired option for full-range music such as psy, or orchestral.
>what monitors are better...
>i have a choice of this two
>Samson Resolv65
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>Alesis Monitor One
I know a few people who have been able to produce real good psytrance on Monitor One's, if I had only $100-$300 to spend. I think, like Behringer, Samson is mostly a cheapo-brand.
-dz
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ii_Roman
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Posted : Nov 5, 2004 03:19
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aDaMT
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Posted : Nov 7, 2004 13:13
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I've noticed a few people mention the Alesis Monitor One MKII's. I have these monitors, and I've got to say, they definatley seem to have a slightly heavy, muddy bass response. I was told, and had read this before I bought them, and after using them for a while, and comparing them to other sound systems, it definitely stands out.
For the price, they are fantastic monitors, and I got mine extra cheap, so overall, I am still happy with them, but there's no denying they lack some clarity in the lower frequencies. I think I'll look at the Mackie 824's next.
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psydance
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Posted : Nov 8, 2004 02:28
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The NS10 are great monitors for mixing, though it depends on your amp. Hafler are great amps, or if you can affort get a Bryston amplifier ( expensive)
I don't like the Mackie 824 for mixing, though they are loud...
Cheap and good monitors are the Yamaha MSP5.
For those with money, go with Dynaudio, very detailed, no ear fatique at all.
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TrancEisT
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Posted : Nov 19, 2004 13:33
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I need new speakers or monitors since mine are ruined.
i am on a low buget and the problem is i want them both for listening to music and playing games + making music and i don't want to buy any of the cheezy 5.1 or 2.1 computer sound systems by creative or logitech or anything.
The problem is Monitors are so fucking expensive, though i found these for a nice price....:
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/DX4-main.html ***i can get these for 140$(new ofcourse)***
or what about these?
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/BX5-main.html i can get them for 250$
i understand the BX 5 have in-built sub-woofers for low frequencys.....
what do i need to check when buying new speakers for the uses i stated above?
please help me all you experts
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Protouch
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Posted : Dec 12, 2004 14:19
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Only Dynaudio , Genelec and Tapco !!! she is the beast !!!!!!!! |
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