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Soul Kontakt
Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 22:06
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On 2007-01-18 14:59, trip_on_acid wrote:
i have enough money bro to eat and survive and tht's all i think everybody needs......
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Totally agree on that but also would need some new Synth and effect box and probably by time will need other things to make better music, but for all this you need money...For everything you need money man, it is in fact a reality which we have to face and live with! The good thing is that we know about it and you have to just balance like in everything else in life, we don't need too much but for sure you love to do something you need to buy stuff to make you hobby work or whatever you work a little bit and you get the money for it and it's done man back to relax life.
It's one of my biggest dreams to have a nice independant community in a beautiful place in the nature were money won't exist anymore but then again it's a whole lot of money to make that dream happen you know! Everything is just money yes!
  Boom :)
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mk47
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 22:16
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without money .. no girls , no cds , no clothes , no computer stuff , no WEED !!!!1 yes .. no weed even !!
no weed , no rolling paper , no hippie bom shiva for you : P ..
so wats that u say bout money again ? 
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mk47
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 22:16
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no internet too
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Allegoric - Psynce
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 22:32
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i understand that money is really required for everyone for everything.......
i wish money was never there to buy all the things in the world and tht's wat my point is i know that without money it just won't do....
but imagine a world which has no meaning of money 
i know it's not possible.......
but anyways i want to thank each and everyone who shared their thoughts on this topic and made me learn little bit more with each post...... 
but still i hate money 
more views will be appreciated 
thanx everyone....
PLUR
Truth will always guard our souls......
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 22:35
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On 2007-01-19 14:02, day_tripper wrote:
fuck... that really you FD??
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Yo 
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 22:43
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when i was in school, I had read this book by Robin cook called abduction, of what i remember, 2 scientists end up in some underground world full of aliens. This world was more like heaven, everyone was happy having sex, no money or any bummer.. first these humans were feeling realy thankful to be there, and then they really had a great time, and slowly they started getting bored of the whole thing.. & these 2 humans could still not be happy around there. so... i guess its in our very nature to be like this. money is just another reason to add on to all this shit in our head thats not letting us be gods yet!
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On 2007-01-19 22:32, trip_on_acid wrote:
i understand that money is really required for everyone for everything.......
i wish money was never there to buy all the things in the world and tht's wat my point is i know that without money it just won't do....
but imagine a world which has no meaning of money
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totally agree! but never gonna happen. Man shouldnt have created money in the first place. we shouldve just lived like apes and used up the earth's resources without disturbing the food chain. I say bring back the dinausurs so some of us humans can die and the eco chain can be in balance again! all this wouldve been posible without evolving into these cyber metro junkies that we have become!
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shamanizer
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 23:49
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@Detox, now that you come from a wealthy family and you are able to buy loads of gadgets for yourself, to consume and to waste more than majority, have you heard about ecological footstep? Its calculated to show how much you erode the nature while you are consuming. This means that more money you have, more money you spend, more resources you use and more waste you produce.
According to your own words you like to consume rather relentlessly and you're well equipped to do so. Someone might put it that you are eroding the nature more than majority of the people, that there's more responsibility resting on your shoulders. Have you thought of that?
Relax, no hard feelings man, i'm not blaming nor accusing you. You have all the rights in the world to do as you please and no-one can judge you for doing so as long as you do everything legally. You're in fact a model consumer, capitalism's golden boy you are. I'm just giving you something to think of, something to chew while you go on with your consuming. Remember that there's always another side on that coin .
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Jester Records
Jester Records
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Posted : Jan 20, 2007 00:30
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On 2007-01-19 23:49, shamanizer wrote:
@Detox, now that you come from a wealthy family and you are able to buy loads of gadgets for yourself, to consume and to waste more than majority, have you heard about ecological footstep? Its calculated to show how much you erode the nature while you are consuming. This means that more money you have, more money you spend, more resources you use and more waste you produce.
According to your own words you like to consume rather relentlessly and you're well equipped to do so. Someone might put it that you are eroding the nature more than majority of the people, that there's more responsibility resting on your shoulders. Have you thought of that?
Relax, no hard feelings man, i'm not blaming nor accusing you. You have all the rights in the world to do as you please and no-one can judge you for doing so as long as you do everything legally. You're in fact a model consumer, capitalism's golden boy you are. I'm just giving you something to think of, something to chew while you go on with your consuming. Remember that there's always another side on that coin .
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Call me ignorant, but what are you trying to say with all that ??
that people who spend money relentlessly are killing society ??
I am confused !!
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Magox
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Posted : Jan 20, 2007 00:38
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On 2007-01-20 00:30, Jester Records wrote:
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On 2007-01-19 23:49, shamanizer wrote:
@Detox, now that you come from a wealthy family and you are able to buy loads of gadgets for yourself, to consume and to waste more than majority, have you heard about ecological footstep? Its calculated to show how much you erode the nature while you are consuming. This means that more money you have, more money you spend, more resources you use and more waste you produce.
According to your own words you like to consume rather relentlessly and you're well equipped to do so. Someone might put it that you are eroding the nature more than majority of the people, that there's more responsibility resting on your shoulders. Have you thought of that?
Relax, no hard feelings man, i'm not blaming nor accusing you. You have all the rights in the world to do as you please and no-one can judge you for doing so as long as you do everything legally. You're in fact a model consumer, capitalism's golden boy you are. I'm just giving you something to think of, something to chew while you go on with your consuming. Remember that there's always another side on that coin .
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Call me ignorant, but what are you trying to say with all that ??
that people who spend money relentlessly are killing society ??
I am confused !!
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me too !! 
"On the path of spirituality, one ventures to vanquish one’s own faults rather than to judge others" |
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shamanizer
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Posted : Jan 20, 2007 01:16
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Dear Jester and Magox, if it makes you confused you better dig into it. There's plenty of material available.
I can try to clarify a bit more. Ecological footstep is in fact calculated in hectars, to be precise in global hectars. One global hectar is equivalent to worlds average productivity on one hectar of land. It is used to measure sustainable developement. It can be used for individuals, countries, industries, companies etc. More you consume and waste, more global hectars you use. For example a person in a poor country might leave an ecological footprint sized 0,2 global hectars where as a wealthy person, who consumes much and produces much waste, might leave a footprint sized 15. Do you get the point? All the world has a fixed number of global hectars and aim of the ecological footprint is to measure the number of global hectars certain unit, whether its a person or company etc., is consuming. Its a scientific method and in 2003 worlds average footprint per person was 2,2 hectars where as worlds biocapacity per person was 1,8 hectars. This means our footprint is bigger than the worlds sustainable land area ie. hectar per person. More people there is less biocapacity per person there is left, but the consumption is increasing all the time which means that the footprint per person is getting bigger. This means that the worlds average capacity to sustain human life is decreasing.
I didnt say that people who spend money relentlessly are killing the society (society is not the best possible word to use in this concept, but never mind), you said it, and its a bit too straightforward way to put it, although not completely wrong. I would put it so that the people who spend relentlessly are speeding up the process of humanity's self destruction. But thats what modern capitalism is all about, consuming and more consuming so that economies can grow, but no-one seems to care what it does to the nature that is in the end the source of all life on earth. |
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Psy_mystic
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Posted : Jan 20, 2007 01:36
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So it all comes down to the fact that most people live without caring what's gonna happen to the world after they're gone ---
the world doesnt stand much of a chance does it...
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Spasm
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Posted : Jan 20, 2007 01:45
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at a economical level, money is worth zero.
Its just printed paper, cheap metal or some figures in your bank account.
You cannot feed your family with it, and it alone, is absolutly worthless.
Money is just a value for some-thing, and that some-thing is what you want.
So dont blame money, blame IT. |
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DETOX
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Posted : Jan 20, 2007 03:30
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Shamanizer mate although your theory has some basis and is very interesting i must admit that i feel that you are exagerrating here.
I mean the fact that i might have two t shirts more than you or a more expensive television than you or a more expensive car than you doesnt mean that i spend with no limit and that i dont care about the nature.I think you are confusing me with some Russian oil tycoon or Bill Gates or someone like that who have the money,power and influence to change our world on a big scale like destroying a forest in the Amazon in order to produce paper or dig all over Siberia for oil and other minerals.
Also keep in mind that nature will always manage to bring things in balance simply because thats how god or aliens or whoever designed things on this planet.I mean the planet was almost destroyed some millions years ago but i doubt that it happened because the dinosaurs were spending a lot on Playstation games or because our monkey ancestors were fond of Ralph Lauren t shirts and jackets.
If you ask me when we are just about to destroy the planet then nature itself will punish us so that we understand that we got to stop it right there,it already punishes us if you ask me.
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Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Jan 20, 2007 04:22
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Jester Records
Jester Records
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Posted : Jan 20, 2007 07:09
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On 2007-01-20 01:16, shamanizer wrote:
Dear Jester and Magox, if it makes you confused you better dig into it. There's plenty of material available.
I can try to clarify a bit more. Ecological footstep is in fact calculated in hectars, to be precise in global hectars. One global hectar is equivalent to worlds average productivity on one hectar of land. It is used to measure sustainable developement. It can be used for individuals, countries, industries, companies etc. More you consume and waste, more global hectars you use. For example a person in a poor country might leave an ecological footprint sized 0,2 global hectars where as a wealthy person, who consumes much and produces much waste, might leave a footprint sized 15. Do you get the point? All the world has a fixed number of global hectars and aim of the ecological footprint is to measure the number of global hectars certain unit, whether its a person or company etc., is consuming. Its a scientific method and in 2003 worlds average footprint per person was 2,2 hectars where as worlds biocapacity per person was 1,8 hectars. This means our footprint is bigger than the worlds sustainable land area ie. hectar per person. More people there is less biocapacity per person there is left, but the consumption is increasing all the time which means that the footprint per person is getting bigger. This means that the worlds average capacity to sustain human life is decreasing.
I didnt say that people who spend money relentlessly are killing the society (society is not the best possible word to use in this concept, but never mind), you said it, and its a bit too straightforward way to put it, although not completely wrong. I would put it so that the people who spend relentlessly are speeding up the process of humanity's self destruction. But thats what modern capitalism is all about, consuming and more consuming so that economies can grow, but no-one seems to care what it does to the nature that is in the end the source of all life on earth.
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Maybe we should just kill more people to balance things out.. LOL.. (im joking BTW) .. but that was the thought that came to mind after reading your post..
But i must admit that your theory makes sence now !!
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