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psychedelic hippy
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 18:54
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trip on acid:
hey mate!!!
unfortunately these dirty papers-coins shits are necessary for our living.
personally i dont give a shit if some people show their money just to give the impresion of a king or use them to make other people feel small.nobody can make me feel small because they just cant!!!!
money cant buy happiness my friend!
be yourself 
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headyatail2000
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 19:15
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earn enough to live
be content
TRY to keep our surroundings clean
evolve..
<~< "the best things in life aren't things" - art buchwald >~> |
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 20:48
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@trip on acid
I get what you're trying to say mate - those are really sweet thoughts, but everybody isnt the way you feel they are or the way you have potrayed them to be in this thread. This thread I feel is a product of a few bad experiences you have had with some people... but this canot be generalised. Countries do not fight for money.. do you think saddam or Bush are short of money - it is power or freedom more than anything else.
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On 2007-01-18 15:03, trip_on_acid wrote:
but does he really need all that and if he needs it then y isn't it needed by everyone present on this planet?
and as soon as he gets that big car big house and big bank account he'll definitely be a big guy which makes others feel small..... because he would not like to sit and talk people who are smaller than him
and tht's wat a normal human being does today.......... yeah ???????
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firstly, everyone outthere isnt chasing the big american dream. Infact, im sure most of us on this forum are just chasing or looking to do something intresting with our lives.. and on the way make money enough to keep ourself and the people around us (if there are any,) happy  even if they are chasing the big fat pay cheque- is it really a bad thing? Everyman comes here to live his life the way he/she wants, and all of us know that that mastercard can buy you almost anything.
If you say that you can live with money just for youre bare neccessities, I presume that you dont have any dependants, but think of all the people who work all day to earn barely enough and still feed their wives or children. would they ever feel the way you or I do?
I know this thread is a wish for a utopian society or world where everything is perfect. but its too late for us to realise that this is not really gonna happen and maybe the meaning of life lies somewhere in the way we live on this earth in this society.
whats important is that all of us be happy at each moment and we share this happyness with others so they can be
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rich
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 21:06
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@trip_on_acid - I stopped reading your post when I got to this:
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On 2007-01-18 14:26, trip_on_acid wrote:
...but suddenly from last 2-3 yrs i have started hating money.
and i really find myself very satisfied with life....
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Imagine how satisfied with life you'll be when you're done hating money.
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coSmiIic r080t0n3
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 21:10
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On 2007-01-18 18:54, psychedelic hippy wrote:
trip on acid:
money cant buy happiness my friend!
be yourself
respect...
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verry true bro ... money can only buy u madness ...
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It's time to move on to the next step in the psychedelic revolution. We've reached a certain point, but we're not moving any more.
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Dennis the menace
DevilsDennis Sparris McHilton
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 21:24
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some of us likes madness
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coSmiIic r080t0n3
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 21:43
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yeah me too .. i like both ..
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shamanizer
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 21:55
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Money is a necessity in today's world. Thats a fact we need to face and live with, but there should be a limit as well. How much each individual actually needs money is the question. Its hard to draw the line, especially in todays world where media is constantly showing images of financially succesful people. Media gives an image that human dignity is valued based on how much money one has. That will eventually lead to destruction.
Everybodys chanting about economic growth and we are not content unless there is actual growth. Why? Why we are not happy to stabilize the economic growth? The reason is share greed and it will lead to destruction.
You say that everybody has a right to earn as much money as they want, to own a car etc. True and fair enough, but that will lead to destruction.
Industries are making more money than ever before. That will lead to destruction.
You see my friends, all this money rally will have a cost and that cost is the nature. Nature sustains everything, including us human beings, and when we want more economic growth we in the same time erode the nature until there's nothing to erode.
At that point you will not have any use for money, there's no way we can buy a future for the humankind with money. Capitalism, as it exists at the moment, will lead humankind to its own self destruction and we humans behave like lemmings in a frenzy.
I know its utopia that people would change, market forces are much more powerful and anyway, it might be too late already and its fine with me. I'm part of the system, we all are and in the end, do we really have realistic ways to influence the current developement as individuals?
There's a cost for this financial frenzy and the cost is destruction of whole globe as we know it. That seems to be fine with people and although its not fine with me i do accept it. I just feel bad for the nature and animals. They dont need money, they dont need to produce unreasonable commodities, but they will pay the price just like humans will.
But hey, atleast we made loads of money, in fact so much that it doesnt even exist anywhere else except in electronical form. Did you know that we have made so much money that if every single stock, bond or whatever owner would claim their share in cash whole world would be in bankruptcy. Funny and somewhat strange this capitalism.
I know there's few of you murmuring that so what, its not going to effect on us, on our time, but you're wrong. You can see the effects already and the speed is accelarating. Now that you are planning your happy family life, career and whatever you might be thinking of, have you thought what kind of world we live to our children. Not very bright future i might say, but more money than any generation inherited before, although very unjustly distributed among people.
In my opinion people went to wrong direction at some point when they started to think that money will bring happiness. At that moment the goal was set to make more and more money, not to achieve happy and satisfactory life. The truth is that money cannot buy happiness (not even for Jews although i might be wrong ;-).
And its bullshit to say that the most common motive of war wouldnt be money. Money plays always a major role in a war. Money and power, power and money go hand in hand in todays world. Religion and rest of the motives are minor.
Ok, enough about money rant for time being.
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dhaturaaaa
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Posted : Jan 18, 2007 23:46
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i dont like new crispy notes of money , i like a little old used ones , they are better to wipe ur ass with ,
dont worry be happy |
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DETOX
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 02:47
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On 2007-01-18 15:03, trip_on_acid wrote:
but does he really need all that and if he needs it then y isn't it needed by everyone present on this planet?
and as soon as he gets that big car big house and big bank account he'll definitely be a big guy which makes others feel small..... because he would not like to sit and talk people who are smaller than him
and tht's wat a normal human being does today.......... yeah ???????
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Well obviously people need a house for living inside it,a car in order to transport and some money in the bank and a good job so that they can support themselves with food and clothes,pay for their education and have some entertainment and some other small time luxuries like internet,television,mobile phones and other stuff like that,not to mention ofcourse about sudden problems that might arise and need money like medical problems for example or lending money to some of their friends or relatives that might need them in a difficult situation.
Money was,is and will be essential to everyone if he wants to live decently and not like a baba in India or a monk in a monastery on the top of a mountain,both of these cases are not bad by the way but becoming a baba or a monk is something not usual in our days and demands a lot of physical and spiritual strength that most people dont have and even are not interested to possess anyway.
Trying to become well off and own a nice house,a nice car,some money in the bank and even some luxury stuff like a yaught or a second house in the beach and things like that is tottally fine and normal in our society and many people are after these goals.If some people are willing to work hard in order to obtain these luxuries i cant see whats the problem with that,and notice my words,WORK HARD IN ORDER TO GET THESE LUXURIES,not doing illegal things or stealing from other people or treating them bad or whatever in order to get rich no matter the cost.
By the way you said that if someone needs all these things then how come not everyone on this planet needs them too?Well i dont know how this came to you but i bet my life that at least 90% of the population of this planet would love to have all the things i mentioned before and is even working hard in order to own them in a point of his life,people get a second job in order to buy an expensive car or work extra hours to buy some expensive clothes or get some extra vacation abroad and stuff like that.
Last but not least you said that when someone becomes rich he feels big and makes other people feel small and even ignores them.
Sorry but if someone feels small because someone else is rich then he has a problem in his brain and the problem has nothing to do with the rich guy but with the "small" guy himself,feeling "small" because someone is richer or more beautifull or more clever or whatever from you is a tottally lack of self respect and an indication of a very weak and low self esteem character.Actually thats a very stupid situation if you ask me.
And to finish with my post you said that when someone becomes rich he doesnt want to be involved with poor people anymore.Sorry mate but it seems to me that you are either a hardcore communist or an old fashioned stinky hippy or someone who watches a lot of American soap operas like the Dynasty or Santa Barbara or whatever where the rich people treat the poor people bad.
I come from a well off familly with couple of houses and a nice expensive car and some expensive clothes (always in XXL size hehe) and a good job and the majority of my friends are everyday people who work 12 hours a day for 600-700 euros a month and cant even dream at the moment even half of the things that i possess (i am talking about people who might work for two months in order to save enough to buy a new jacket while i might buy the same jacket just for fun because i saw it somewhere on the net) but still this economic class difference doesnt prevent them or me in being very good friends and spend our time together and have fun together and even make fun of each other (in a good sense ofcourse) with them calling me a capitalist pig and i calling them poor slaves and other silly things like that.It doesnt matter if you are rich or poor when you are a healthy thinking person with a good and strong character,yes some rich people might detest poor people and some poor people might envy rich people in a bad way but this is for sure the minority and has nothing to do with reality where people mostly socialize happy together without caring whether someone is rich or poor.
You shouldnt hate money mate,you should hate people who use and understand money in a wrong way because in the end there are just good and bad people. Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!! |
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 07:20
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On 2007-01-18 23:46, dhaturaaaa wrote:
i dont like new crispy notes of money , i like a little old used ones , they are better to wipe ur ass with ,
dont worry be happy
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the new notes are bettar. they make good snorters!
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day_tripper
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 14:02
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On 2007-01-18 20:48, Forest dreams wrote:
@trip on acid
I get what you're trying to say mate - those are really sweet thoughts, but everybody isnt the way you feel they are or the way you have potrayed them to be in this thread. This thread I feel is a product of a few bad experiences you have had with some people... but this canot be generalised. Countries do not fight for money.. do you think saddam or Bush are short of money - it is power or freedom more than anything else.
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On 2007-01-18 15:03, trip_on_acid wrote:
but does he really need all that and if he needs it then y isn't it needed by everyone present on this planet?
and as soon as he gets that big car big house and big bank account he'll definitely be a big guy which makes others feel small..... because he would not like to sit and talk people who are smaller than him
and tht's wat a normal human being does today.......... yeah ???????
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firstly, everyone outthere isnt chasing the big american dream. Infact, im sure most of us on this forum are just chasing or looking to do something intresting with our lives.. and on the way make money enough to keep ourself and the people around us (if there are any,) happy even if they are chasing the big fat pay cheque- is it really a bad thing? Everyman comes here to live his life the way he/she wants, and all of us know that that mastercard can buy you almost anything.
If you say that you can live with money just for youre bare neccessities, I presume that you dont have any dependants, but think of all the people who work all day to earn barely enough and still feed their wives or children. would they ever feel the way you or I do?
I know this thread is a wish for a utopian society or world where everything is perfect. but its too late for us to realise that this is not really gonna happen and maybe the meaning of life lies somewhere in the way we live on this earth in this society.
whats important is that all of us be happy at each moment and we share this happyness with others so they can be
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fuck... that really you FD?? 
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day_tripper
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 14:05
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Money, get away.
Get a good job with good pay and youre okay.
Money, its a gas.
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think Ill buy me a football team.
Money, get back.
Im all right jack keep your hands off of my stack.
Money, its a hit.
Dont give me that do goody good bullshit.
Im in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a lear jet.
Money, its a crime.
Share it fairly but dont take a slice of my pie.
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today.
But if you ask for a raise its no surprise that theyre
Giving none away.
Huhuh! I was in the right!
Yes, absolutely in the right!
I certainly was in the right!
You was definitely in the right. that geezer was cruising for a
Bruising!
Yeah!
Why does anyone do anything?
I dont know, I was really drunk at the time!
I was just telling him, he couldnt get into number 2. he was asking
Why he wasnt coming up on freely, after I was yelling and
Screaming and telling him why he wasnt coming up on freely.
It came as a heavy blow, but we sorted the matter out
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mindgames
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O O T,topic! |
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Jester Records
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Posted : Jan 19, 2007 21:10
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On 2007-01-18 14:59, DETOX wrote:
Someone who is dreaming for example of a nice house,a nice car and some extra cash in a bank account cant be considered as a greedy bastard but rather as a very normal human being.
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but does he really need all that and if he needs it then y isn't it needed by everyone present on this planet?
and as soon as he gets that big car big house and big bank account he'll definitely be a big guy which makes others feel small..... because he would not like to sit and talk people who are smaller than him
and tht's wat a normal human being does today.......... yeah ???????
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goddamm hipies!
what if i WANT to have also yacht ? why i make you feel small ?
jusr live your life , and let others do the same..
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My thoughts exactly..
Money is bad when you start ripping people off to get more money.. Money is bad when you put other people at a lose for your personal gain..
working to get money, to buy a nice Tv, an expensive car, a big house and a fucken poodle is NOT bad because YOU WORK FOR IT honestly. Its not about being bigger than others all the time. We set our own standards for ourselves and we don't always want better/bigger things to compair with others.
If you promise someone, like an artist, money for a track to release on a compilation, and you do not pay them just so you can have more money to buy the stuff you want isn't the same thing. THIS is wrong.
In the end, its not the money, its the person whom causes the problem...i think..
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