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Junk Rhythm
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Babaluma
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cyclone
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Posted : Apr 10, 2012 13:53
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wow im so impressed with modular production...and i was thinking to go that road...
so somebody can help me for a set up regarding to psytrance production?
can an analog sequencer will be enough (like dark time) for live production of psy?or am i going more ,thinking that in logic pro i use about 50-70 channels per track...
will i need a mixer?or it will be like stevios live set ups in difference that he makes minimal techno that means very less channels..
can a budget of 2000 euro be enough for a descend modular stracture?
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Martian Arts
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Posted : Apr 10, 2012 14:47
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On 2012-04-06 23:34, faxinadu wrote:
flame me all you want, but to me analog is so overrated.
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Whats overrated about about analog? It has its sound and a lot of people love that sound.
It costs more to build analogue synths/modules, but there is a certain sound to it and people like it enough to justify the costs.
And there's analog and there's analog.
Don't expect to be thrilled by budget analogue synths, the new ones at least, if you are looking at getting a new synth that costs less than 500€.
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MJ12
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Posted : Apr 10, 2012 14:51
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For me the only reason modular seems a better choice is that I would be able to play it as an instrument. Maybe it sounds better to some or others can't tell the difference, but just being in front of a real beast of a machine tweaking and wiggling is so much fun, instead of sitting at a computer screen with a mouse.
Been thinking of more ways to get OTB for live, so for kick, bass and percussion using the dsi tempest then for leads and sound effects recording all the modular sounds onto the 8 channels of the octatrack for sound real time sound mangling on both these amazing machines. Ok so I don't have any of these instruments yet, but I have just started a new job! So my studio will be ready soon. Any advice or other pieces of equipment I will need for live?
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aje
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Posted : Apr 10, 2012 16:54
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Yeah, the tactile control and the opportunity to make real patches by actually physically patching is what I am after as well. The unique sound of analogue gear is awesome, but the main selling point for me are the haptic qualities of a modular system. Which is why I am definitely leaning towards 5U...
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MJ12
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Posted : Apr 10, 2012 17:27
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5u systems do look nice all in black, but am leaning towards the Eurorack system with an expanding range of modules and the avalability in the UK for this stuff seems better than other systems. |
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MJ12
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Posted : Apr 10, 2012 23:18
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Been following that MacBeth and it does sound tasty, and is in the same price range as the Pittsburgh modular Foundation. Is going to be a tough choice when I raise the funds this summer. |
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Taika-Kim
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Posted : Apr 10, 2012 23:47
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I've been using a modular for some month now so, and I can say it's the most fun I've had with electronic music for 10 years.
I built a case myself from recycled stuff and a Doepfer DIY kit, and been buying used modules from Muffwigglers forum... It's now at around 1000 euros, and can make more weird & wonderful stuff than most pre-configured analog synths at that price point.
My advice is to be familiar with what works for your individual style of creating music, and making something exactly for YOU, that's the beauty of this. I have only one oscillator and no ADSR envelopes, only four AD ones... A VST like this would feel totally crippled, but with all the cross-modulations possible between modules, and the ability to "misuse" them, I can make fantastic stuff that I just never could get right with the computer... |
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Taika-Kim
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Posted : Apr 10, 2012 23:48
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I mean, one dedicated oscillator module. I can make lots of oscillating signals with whatever else. Oh, and I don't have LFOs either, except one sine from a pedal, and a square from a S/H module. I built this like this on purpose so that I would be forced to be more creative  |
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cyclone
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Posted : Apr 11, 2012 00:45
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i was looking for videos in google for modular psy but can't find anything...
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Junk Rhythm
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Posted : Apr 11, 2012 18:26
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On 2012-04-10 16:54, aje wrote:
Yeah, the tactile control and the opportunity to make real patches by actually physically patching is what I am after as well. The unique sound of analogue gear is awesome, but the main selling point for me are the haptic qualities of a modular system. |
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This is the exact same reason I got into modular systems. I wanted another level of interaction and a more direct/tactile workflow that software and preconfigured/routed hardware synths did not provide. I blame software like Reaktor for making me think of sound in that way. Instead of spending time assigning MIDI controllers and creating the perfect interface to control a piece of software/hardware, I was more interested in using what I feel to be the perfect interface and spend more time creating sound. This is all opinion though, it all comes down to how one likes to work.
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On 2012-04-10 23:18, MJ12 wrote:
Been following that MacBeth and it does sound tasty, and is in the same price range as the Pittsburgh modular Foundation. Is going to be a tough choice when I raise the funds this summer. |
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The MacBeth does look nice and I imagine sounds wonderful, (I have yet to try any of Ken's modules in person) but if I was just starting out with modulars again I would more than likely go for the Pittsburgh Foundation. Mostly because it gives the user a little more freedom to try out individual modules and then customize the system a bit more to fit their own needs. The Pitt is a little more flexible in that regard since you would be able to trade/swap/sell off the modules that just do not work out as you feel they should. The Eurorack version of the MicroMac also requires a case which does add to the cost.
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On 2012-04-11 00:45, cyclone wrote:
i was looking for videos in google for modular psy but can't find anything...
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That might be a slightly tough one to find at the moment. Modulars have been used in psytrance for quite awhile but for the most part I would assume a lot of it has been kept in the studio. As mentioned earlier in this thread, Dog of Tears does use a modular live.
Analog/Digital Synth Modules www.toppobrillo.com
Psy/Goa Music www.soundcloud.com/the233project
Random Modular Bits: https://soundcloud.com/junkrhythm |
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 11, 2012 19:04
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i have big lust coming back for the pittsburgh fondation ! what do you think guys? do you think it s nice set up to start a eurorack ?
i havent calculated the cost of buying the modules alone vs the fondation yet , if their is a good price reduction buy buying the fondation it could be great choice to me..i really like the sound of their modules from the sample i heard .
1600/1700 dollars sound like a bargain to me but i have afraid it cost a lot more in europe.. |
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Junk Rhythm
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Posted : Apr 11, 2012 19:33
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On 2012-04-11 19:04, PoM wrote:
i have big lust coming back for the pittsburgh fondation ! what do you think guys? do you think it s nice set up to start a eurorack ?
i havent calculated the cost of buying the modules alone vs the fondation yet , if their is a good price reduction buy buying the fondation it could be great choice to me..i really like the sound of their modules from the sample i heard .
1600/1700 dollars sound like a bargain to me but i have afraid it cost a lot more in europe..
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Seems as though none of the Pitt dealers in Europe have the Foundation listed yet. Depending on where you are located there are three distributors available. Post Modular, Escape From Noise, and Schneidersladen. Get in contact with one of them to see which one will be stocking the Foundation. I would assume they will all have it at one point and the price will most likely be the same for each dealer.
As far as the Foundation vs. buying individual modules, the Foundation looks to be the cheaper option. From what I calculated the system is around $1400 for the modules that are currently available for purchase. The filter, ADSRs, and LFO2 don't seem to be listed on any of the distributor sites but I would expect them to be at least another $500 to $600+ added onto that $1400.
Analog/Digital Synth Modules www.toppobrillo.com
Psy/Goa Music www.soundcloud.com/the233project
Random Modular Bits: https://soundcloud.com/junkrhythm |
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