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fractal fields
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Posted : Oct 31, 2011 17:06:49
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Hi all 
I've been tweaking sylenth quite a while for basses as it is my favorite bass synth.
Recently i'm playing with ACE for bass and i must say i -to my feeling- it has even better low end.
So i've made some basic psy bass patches but 'm lost when it comes to modular patch posibilities. (i can emulate the basis in modular... but wanna know more, whats possible in modular bass patch that isnt in a regular vst?(and still sounds good ))
Can anybody point us in the right direction, or even share some ACE patces to learn from there.
I know most of the basics of bass enginieering but wanna go further (the more in depth and 'secret' trix of the modular trade.)
I'm not asking to give youre magic away but to point modular noob in the right direction so others -and i- can find our way from there. I cannot find much info on psy related modular sound design....
mush thanks for any input
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faxinadu
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Posted : Oct 31, 2011 20:12
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 31, 2011 22:39
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sure it have better low end imo, more meat more deep,i never enjoyed sylenth for bass but it look like i m a exception.
ace is one of the easiest synth i used to get a good bass cause even without any processing the bass that come from it sound not bad .
turn the second lfo as a ocillator to have control on the phase,patch it to the filer ,set env modulation ,key follow ,what ever you want.. tweak the envelop and everyhting to taste and you should be there.
imo it take a bit too much cpu just for making a psy bassline but it s really good, could be even better if the saw was looking like on ace scope and not eating headroom
synth you use dont mean much though , esm sound nothing like ace but when i a/bed the bass i got from them after processing, it sound 90% identical |
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 31, 2011 23:16
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if you want crazy modulation massive may be even more suited imo,i like for example to sync modulate the filter envelop shape like the sustain with a lfo or something else to open a little and close for extra groove.
ace i used just for regular simple psytrance bassline,but there is a really great trick to pan hard left/right some sctacked detuned voices and get "stereo" sound ,really cool for some fx or some leads, i would have to check on the synth to explain it well but basically you set the step modulator to the amount of stacked voice, try with 2 i find it give good result, modulate the pan knob with the step modulator with one step up ,one down and set it on the right setting , you will get your wide sound (you will have to set the pan knobl on one side) |
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mudpeople
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Posted : Nov 7, 2011 05:51
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Ive been using a few modular softies in my live set, patching em instead of playing live keyboard with great results. Im not realy a keyboardist  Ive got ACE plus VoltKitchen Arppe2600 and Ninecows Cynthia which are both free and great emulations.
But for bass i usually go for SH101 type sounds, in the live I use TAL Elek7roII. i prefer simple unmodulated mono basses though, but I can see how ACE basses would sound good for more experimental work
The U-he site has a ton of patches for all their plugs, tons for ACE. Ive always liked Tasmodia's patches myself.
U-He's Bazille is another new modular, technically an alpha version but it feels more like a beta, and while in development its free. I guess its going to be part of Berlin Modular which will be a suite of synths that can be used either together or individually a la Synth Squad. Bazille has much more patch-cable mayhem than ACE which can result in some serious spaghetti-patchings (but of course the more you patch it the more CPU it uses). Lots of fun
For advice Id say get familiar with basic subtractive synthesis and how the signal flows in non-modular synths, then play around with modulars using the same ideas, see what does what, then experiment
Its advisable to use a brickwall limiter when you're patching, with the freedom of most modulars you can very easily make some gnarly feedback paths and severely harsh frequencies that can damage gear and ears. Once you get to know what you're working with you'll get an idea what to avoid. Always good to have that limiter safety net though   . |
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