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MIXING questions/help
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orgytime
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Posted : May 14, 2008 02:16:36
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hey there,
im still looking for some mixing help, and i think the best way to learn are videos.
i got the "AndiVax Mixing Secrets" video and it realy helped alot, but im still not satisfied with the result.
i heared that there are a few other good videos out there.
did i miss the "mother of all mixing" thread?
IMO mixing is much more important then mastering... mastering in homestudio is very hard... so,
DO YOU HAVE ANY VID/LINK for mixing help?
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Kitnam
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Posted : May 14, 2008 15:25
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no, the best way to learn mixing is to mix & practice. not from videos. the best way to learn mathematics is to do it on paper, not watching videos about it.
you just sit down and focus on the mix, and you will grow there automaticly.
a vid to pick up which helped me a bit: charles dye - mix it like a record.
bit this is all just assisting knowlegde based on your own experience.
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orgytime
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Posted : May 14, 2008 21:50
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hmm k + thx, but some things you CANT find out yourself |
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Alex Roudos
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Posted : May 14, 2008 22:22
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There are too many things that someone CANT find out all by himself, but there are way lot more things that someone CAN find by himself and usually these things are the fundamentals of everything anyone wants to do. And there are millions of articles, thousands of posts in forums for everything.
A lot of searching, even more reading and infinite practice is just what's needed.
And in your case orgytime, another very important thing is needed. Very specific questions. Asking for advice on mixing is quite doomed in my opinion. People willing to give advices wouldn't really know where to start from..........
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Get-a-fix
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Posted : May 14, 2008 22:37
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Well mixing is an art that you gradually get better at over time, so give it time & you will eventually improve.
Anyway one Tutorial DVD that i would recommend is Steinberg 'Internal Mixing' series, it will give you lots of good tips.
Another important point is that it helps to have the best monitoring you can afford to get better at mixing. There's no point in eq'ing if you can't hear what it is doing to the sound. Good monitoring means you should also have proper acoustic treatment in your room.
Other than that, practice, practice, practice.
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orgytime
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Posted : May 14, 2008 23:32
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thank you very much, i know that mixing has a huge spectrum, but you knew what i meant... every advice of you helped me! thanks for your time |
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piXan
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Posted : May 15, 2008 01:02
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orgytime
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Posted : May 15, 2008 14:04
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thx ill check that one out! |
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hugaw
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Posted : May 15, 2008 16:53
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I have a question fellas :
My mix sounds pretty good on my monitors (Fostex PM1Mk2,not bad ones tho), clear and precise, but when i listen to it through my headphones it sounds totally different (oh what a scoop). But i wonder about the room thing. My mix sounds good but i made it in a large room without foam or somethin. So maybe the TRUE sound of the mix is the one i hear trough my headphones, not through the monitors.
To put it in a nutshell : does the room thing is THAT important when mixing ?
oh, my headphones are Senheiser HD-200, so maybe it is shit too...
What dyou think ? |
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orgytime
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Posted : May 15, 2008 17:07
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hey hugaw
i got similar problems... i got nice sound on my monitors (cheap stuff), but if i listen to my mix with the i-pod it totally sucks.
i prefer i-pot (just for listening music) because of its clean sound, so i think my mix DO REALLY suck lol
but at the sound on my monitors i would not change anything, because its exactly what i want...
i heard, that mixing with "special" earphones is possible and not "forbidden", i think ill look for such a thing, hopefully not as expensive as a complete studio equipment... i wonder why the sound sucks too, when i plug my i-pod-earphones in to my computer rofl... |
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Alien Bug
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Posted : May 15, 2008 17:32
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Alex Roudos
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Posted : May 15, 2008 19:07
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The room thing is the MOST important, then is the speakers and the DA converters.
Mixing in headphones is totally out of the question unless everyone starts listening to music everywhere with headphones.
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orgytime
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Posted : May 15, 2008 20:08
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On 2008-05-15 17:32, Alien Bug wrote:
No, sound from headphones is not TRUE.
Dont trust headphones!
Good acoustic of room is very important.
Too big room is bad, too small is bad etc etc...
Read about room acoustic.
My english is too bad for talking about that :/
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kk, i think i understood... so, NO HEADPHONES |
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orgytime
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 01:22
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Hi guys,
finaly we got our FIRST TRACK nearly finished.
my psyfriend and I want to make a myspacepage to get more involved in the whole psy thing...
it took us more than 100 hours of work for this track but there are some issues where we still need a some advices before we can upload it.
if anyone could take the time and give some feedback about nearly everything^^
-percussion (full enough?, do we need to add reverb/compressor?)
-leads (we got especialy problems with reverb)
-bass (sounds nice, but somehow not that professional sound)
-mastering (volume of each instrument ok?)
-structure (we like it)
track data:
7min
140bpm only
(pornobass + fullon included)
i know that its lot of work for answering this questions,
but you would be a really big help for us to get started.
8mb download
http://files.filefront.com/Roblabra+2+pre+3mp3/;13285586;/fileinfo.html
thx and CHEERS
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Alex Roudos
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 01:57
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I checked the mix with my 100% super shitty 2.1 creative PC speakers and with my kind of descent dj headphones.
Overall it sounds ok. The kick sounded to me quite upfront/loud in both cases. Maybe a reduction of about 2dbs will make the mix more balanced in that matter.
I also miss the oomph(meaning the low freq presence) in the kick but more importantly in the bass. Keep in mind that i have absolutely no experience on how psytrance of any style should sound.
Also the hihat section could use a little more bite in my opinion.
And lastly the mix sounded to me quite dry in general, lacking wideness and depth.
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