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Mixing psychill / psybient / psydub

kylistar
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Posted : Aug 21, 2011 16:07:53
Hello!


I am trying to make myself my first mix ever and the style is psychill/ambient/dub.

How do you guys do that? These tunes arent as often on the same BPM as mixing say techno, progressive or psy. And often these track dont even have beat until 3 mins through the track. And often the songs end without a beat aswell.

Do you just mix the songs together where it sounds good to your ears? Or do you have any tricks / tips?

Maybe some tutorial?

Any tips are welcome!
mudpeople
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Posted : Aug 21, 2011 19:03
when mixing non-dance stuff I usually don't even try ot match tempos, usually I just listen for the right moment to fade the next one in, usually the transitions end up shorter than when actually matching beats, but thats fine, its more like painting a picture that way.

But you can also for example mix something at 80 bpm with something 160, because they're really the same tempo, 160 just has twice as much going on. Just as an example, I don't really recommend mixing high speed stuff with downtempo unless you use the slow stuff as an intro for a set of fast stuff. If youre using CDJs that dont have pitch control range wide enough to make 80 into 160, an alternative would be to find a tempo that the slow track can be pitched to that is half of a tempo that the fast one can be pitched.

I would say that it would be easy to do it digitally, but it really isn't, downtempo stuff often doesn't stick to consistent time signatures, which in my own experience trying to do a downtempo Ableton set is a lot more work to properly warp than dance stuff, soemtimes requiring warp markers on the start and end of every single pattern, which can mean all sorts of potential miswarping... Its actually much easier to mix it with hardware than Live in my experience.

I would just say do whatever you think sounds good to you.           .
supergroover
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Posted : Aug 22, 2011 00:27
You can mix the ambient bits but that gets boring quickly. therefor I usually try to beatmix chill out. The flow is better and it is fun to do. Of course sometimes you can change the tempo of the track by ambientmixing the next. Than you can choose another track that fits the new tempo.
Some tracks have 3 minute intro's indeed. If you want to play them just ambientmix it otherwise just use the part with a beat.           soundcloud.com/supergroover
V3NOM
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Posted : Aug 22, 2011 01:27
There's no rules dude, just mix non-4x4 how you think sounds best. As I always say to DJs, developing your own style for mixing is more important than the same mixing as every other dj. I've even been know to do a fair bit of scratching etc. tricks with downtempo as it gets boring for all and sundry otherwise.

Also, your own style will make you standout from every other dj.

You can easily beat match downtempo, for example on James Monro's freestyle mix on Re:Evolution IV on Flying Rhino Records.           I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
elastic_plastic
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Posted : Aug 22, 2011 11:06
there are no rules for sure but i would recommend using the filter fx a lot when mixing psychill sounds....
kylistar
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Posted : Aug 23, 2011 00:26
allright, think im gonna get on it then.

thanks!
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