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reeps
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Posted : Nov 2, 2009 11:59:17
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Just a quick (mixing question),
so when im mixing my track, i usually leave the kick without any eq (doesnt need it, they are already awesome samples (thomas penton ftw)) and my snare freq cut under 120-200hz roughly, and maybe a broad low db gap around 500-2000hz if it is a very lead intensive song.
so i guess my question is 2 parts.
do you eq your kick/snare so that they fit better with your leads?? and if so how?
do you eq your leads to allow a gap for the kick/snare?
im just writing some really melodic, distorted leads, and am having a lot of trouble mixing the snare neatly especially (i usually just use a small snare, and eq the mids out)
hope i made my question clear enough
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supergroover
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Posted : Nov 2, 2009 12:27
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I guess it depends what you find most important. If the lead is more important cut snare. if it is the snare cut lead. What you could also do is find a snare that doesnt clash with the lead. Or try to sidechain the lead by the snare only and maybe only in certain freqs. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Nov 2, 2009 12:31
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Its part of the choosing the right sample (snare int his case) process. Its a big deal to have the ear to choose the right sound and that comes with time.
Other than that, (and apart from high pasing all the bottom end out) there is no "one right way" of EQing your leads. Spend a lot of time listening and cut out the stuff that clashes, and also choose the right notes at the right time...in other words how you build your arrangement is crucial to how much trouble you are going to get into when mixing down.
One thing that works well on distorted sweeping resonant leads is a multiband compressor, so you can keep the "screaming" even across the spectrum.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 3, 2009 07:53
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On 2009-11-02 12:31, disco hooligans wrote:
Its part of the choosing the right sample (snare int his case) process. Its a big deal to have the ear to choose the right sound and that comes with time.
Other than that, (and apart from high pasing all the bottom end out) there is no "one right way" of EQing your leads. Spend a lot of time listening and cut out the stuff that clashes, and also choose the right notes at the right time...in other words how you build your arrangement is crucial to how much trouble you are going to get into when mixing down.
One thing that works well on distorted sweeping resonant leads is a multiband compressor, so you can keep the "screaming" even across the spectrum.
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Thanks for the tip about multiband comp on screaming resonant leads/sounds...
Very useful info... 
cheers
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reeps
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Posted : Nov 3, 2009 08:31
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cheers for the help guys, the answer always seems so obvious after youve been told it!!!
another quick eq question,
what about the mid/high end of the bass, how do i go about mixing that in with the rest?????
i think previously i have just taken a dip out of the 600-2000 range and usually cut anything above 7000hz, as i find if i cut below 5 i lose the sparkle that defines the bass in the mix.
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Soundmagus
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Posted : Nov 3, 2009 09:50
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personally i think everytime you do this its different because you are using different sounds/samples.
Its all about listening to what your monitors tell you then act accordingly.
The most important thing is to start out with excellent samples and ones that fit well together, dont just pick any sound then rely on EQ to make them fit, try to find sounds that all ready fit then your life will be so much simpler.
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naga
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Posted : Nov 3, 2009 20:18
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IMO
1. If you are PRO in EQing you can use any sample you want
2. if you are PRO in TWEAKIN a SYNTH you don't need an EQ (so much)
3. Once you are PRO in BOTH you can jam with all samples, sounds and loops and fit them to a song in a way you want.
My advice is that forget everything you have read about EQ, trust your ears, play with eq and learn to find the frequencies that suck the sound =)
IMO also
HP above 20-30hz sucks
LP under 16khz sucks
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GyPsynate
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 01:16
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IMO:
1. If you are PRO in EQing you wont be reading this...
2. if you are PRO in TWEAKIN a SYNTH you are probably to busy to care...
3. Once you are PRO in BOTH you can do what ever you want because your not learning any more...
if your just learning how to use sounds please eq everything...(tip: only take away freqs in the EQ, isolate the area of freqs you want then up vol or compress track)
yes HP above 20-30hz if your learning
yes LP under 16khz if your learning
This will help clean up your sound untill you get to the point where you can mold your frequencies around each other.
At first its all about learning what and why things do what, then Learn how it works best for your work flow, and then once your comfy with your tools experiment and find your sound.
There is a thousand different ways to do everything and everyone has an oppinion so dont take what people say as the only and right way to do something.
\\\"Invoking the inner dancing buddha with future frequencies from beyond\\\" ~GyPsy
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aciduss
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 02:49
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How much do you guys LowPass stuff? I mean it is a common practice to HP the bottom end so it wont clash with bassline but what about the bright side of the spectrum do you cut also the highs on bright and fuzzy lead kind of sound for example? |
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soulfood
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 04:27
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On 2009-11-04 02:49, aciduss wrote:
How much do you guys LowPass stuff? I mean it is a common practice to HP the bottom end so it wont clash with bassline but what about the bright side of the spectrum do you cut also the highs on bright and fuzzy lead kind of sound for example?
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Remove anything that doesn't serve a purpose.
I always cut some lows on snares, but depending on the sample I sometime do a low pass also, usually anywhere between 10k-20k |
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soulfood
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 04:30
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On 2009-11-03 20:18, naga wrote:
IMO
1. If you are PRO in EQing you can use any sample you want
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Really? ANY sample?
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On 2009-11-03 20:18, naga wrote:
IMO also
HP above 20-30hz sucks
LP under 16khz sucks
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Can you tell the difference between a 14K LP and a 16K LP if they are not played side by side?
I couldn't
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Pythagoraz
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 10:31
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On 2009-11-03 09:50, Soundmagus wrote:
personally i think everytime you do this its different because you are using different sounds/samples.
Its all about listening to what your monitors tell you then act accordingly.
The most important thing is to start out with excellent samples and ones that fit well together, dont just pick any sound then rely on EQ to make them fit, try to find sounds that all ready fit then your life will be so much simpler.
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I think the above is correct.
Obviously You can tweak most samples/sounds to fit in the mix by using different tools such as EQs and other effects, but I do not think it is wise to stray from the quoted advice above if You want to optimize your workflow. It is very time consuming to make a sound that initialy doesn't fit in the mix at all fit, where as an other sample might be much more symbiotic with the mix from the get go.
But i'm sure there are a few people out there who feel that the browsing for samples is more workflow killing than EQing etc. is.
But... most people is not like that.
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