Shiranui
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Posted : Feb 1, 2011 22:45:35
So as I've been DJing, I've noticed that some tracks seem like they're made for the DJ mixer and others do not.
By which I mean, on some tracks if you cut the bass knob all the way down, it almost completely removes the kick and bassline and barely affects the other sounds
but on other tracks, turning the bass knob down doesn't completely remove the bassline, and/or it significantly attenuates all of the other sounds in the track.
Do some producers take this into account when EQing their tracks or is it just a coincidence?
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Posted : Feb 1, 2011 22:52
just a coincidence.
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 00:23
i think this can be one of the difficult things, to match the balance while beat mixing and to keep a constant lowfreq sound, or any other freq band.
So you have to experiment and choose tracks that complement each other.
But some artist are notorious in keeping each freq band to its own place, while still remaining presence of the bass for example. But this is really like Mike is saying, probably just a coincidence. Still my bet is that some serious fullon versus some heavy night time psy where i think the bass is sometimes covering a broader spectrum will be harder to get the subby feeling off...
Or maybe its the otherway around cause most fullon has a brighter bass note, while most nighttime psy is playing the lowest E.
i will make some test for my own hehe
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 02:05
I find the problem of the leads having too much presence in the lows is a little bit more widespread than that of the bass being too high.
There are some minimal techno tracks where you cut the bass knob and you basically hear nothing but the hihats.
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 02:51
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On 2011-02-02 02:05, Shiranui wrote:
I find the problem of the leads having too much presence in the lows is a little bit more widespread than that of the bass being too high.
There are some minimal techno tracks where you cut the bass knob and you basically hear nothing but the hihats.
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 20:02
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On 2011-02-02 19:58, willsanquil wrote:
if the entire track is in one band, I certainly wouldn't play that track out - as it would be incredibly sparse.
Either that or your EQ knob is tied to (much) more of the spectrum than you think it is
I don't mean to say that it's /entirely/ in one band, as much as the acoustic energy is concentrated in the low band to such an extent that cutting the low band makes the track disappear entirely from the mix.
and yes it would be very nice if DJ mixers had adjustable frequency cutoffs... or even just VCFs (which some mixers DO, but most don't)
however a DJ must work with the equipment he or she is given.
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 21:32
could always go down the dark, evil path of software mixing where you can adjust the individual EQ knobs to cover more or less of the spectrum
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 21:49
I'm having trouble thinking of one off the top of my head... I'd have to come back to you when I'm at home and actually have access to a mixer
If I remember correctly this track does it:
that high melody sounds full only because it's accompanied by the bassline, when you cut the bass, the melody is really weak and easily disappears from the mix when it's up against another track
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Posted : Feb 3, 2011 00:16
Can't see the track cuz im at work, but I found that yes its true that when you cut the bass out of a track it can be very hard to hear the rest of the sounds in the mix
This was annoying me a bit when I would cut the bass but I would still want a lead line or vocal sample to cut through as I mixed in another track
One thing I found helpful was a slight gain boost on the track going out compared to the one coming in, doesn't sound so bad as you're not boosting the lows seeing as they're already cut
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