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parapsyched
Scratch 22
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 18:19
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On 2006-03-14 12:54, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
Compress tracks that are out of control and try bus compression, side-chaning and stealth compression ...
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what`s stealth compression?
  if u dig deep enough u just might reach the sky...
"dream is destiny"
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 18:52
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I think that is an american term and there's another way of saying it in the UK, but that is how learned it in uni.
Its basically mixing the compressed version of say a drum kit, with the uncompressed version of it.
The compressed version has the solid body of the kit with, whereas the uncompressed brings in some of the original transient content (as much as you want since you are mixing it in) that is missing from the compressed version.
One would expect to get the same results from simply using a slower attack on the compressor and let the original transients through, but it actually sounds different.
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TuK
TuK
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 20:17
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the mix of your track sould sound just as good like the released music only lower in volume, thats the only rule i have, then the mastered version of your track will be great.
so just compare it with released music and make your sound just as good.
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Minimal Monster
Minimal Monster
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 22:51
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EYB
Noized
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 23:59
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Comparing is essential, not only between the track and one u like. Also always compare the signal with the eq/comp/or sth else with the original signal. Does it sound better?, need it changes?, Do i have a comp there coz 'it have to be compressed'?
Keep an eye/ear on ultra low/high freqs and on resonating freq.
Important for a good mix are the volumes of the single tracks in the track.
Eq tracks while playing them with the rest of the sounds.
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Mar 15, 2006 00:45
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On 2006-03-13 21:00, RajaRan wrote:
the released material is after compresing and mastering and many kind of thing that makes the track FAT. but for all of this, u need to do a good mix. and thats what i want to know. how to do it.
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Nahh sorry but if its good it will sound FAT before mastering... 
No mastering will save a bad mix.
The best the mix the less the mastering work to be done,
the worst the mix, the more mastering work must be done...
Some Mixes are so good they almost donŽt need mastering or donŽt need at all. Also some times when mastering a compilation the best track is choosen as the reference to master the others...
Mastering is also done with reference tracks...
ThereŽs no thing like "comparing your music to unmastered tracks" imo....U should always use for reference the released tracks you like the sound the most, and try to get there...
Like dj tKu said, if you do it this way then the mastered version will only be better
But it definetelly should sound FAT before hitting any mastering studio 
Like some ppl said here the main difference of a mastered track is the loudness...so just stick a maximizer in your master, bypass it while you mix, and turn it when you what to do the reference comparisons, just to give it some more power...weŽll, thats how I do at least |
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fregle
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Posted : Mar 15, 2006 18:45
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On 2006-03-14 22:51, RajaRan wrote:
i cant understand why pro artist dont give there opinion for this chapter.. i apriciate all the people here who told what they know, but its allways good to hear what the pro artists have to say! just beacause they allready done it before and with a good results
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most of them don't ned this forum anymore so they aren't here all together. Coloin is a longtime professional and he already gave you a tip... The most important things to know on how to make your mix clear and balanced are explained in this article: http://www.dnbscene.com/articles.php?mode=display&id=79
the rest is experience, experience and some more experience. |
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Mike A
Subra
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Posted : Mar 15, 2006 21:15
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Don't forgot to mix with monitors, otherwise there is not much point.
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Squarepusher
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 15, 2006 21:35
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On 2006-03-14 22:51, RajaRan wrote:
i cant understand why pro artist dont give there opinion for this chapter.. i apriciate all the people here who told what they know, but its allways good to hear what the pro artists have to say! just beacause they allready done it before and with a good results
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most of them don't ned this forum anymore so they aren't here all together. Coloin is a longtime professional and he already gave you a tip... The most important things to know on how to make your mix clear and balanced are explained in this article: http://www.dnbscene.com/articles.php?mode=display&id=79
the rest is experience, experience and some more experience.
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this tutorial is gr8 for learning some principles and even to remember some stuff ... |
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MTD
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Posted : Mar 16, 2006 02:51
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for me a track is ok if it sounds good on my hifi, mp3-player, my 'kitchen-radio' (cause it has only one box) and in the car.
to come to a result that's near mastering, try to listen as quit as possible on it - if every sound has his position it shoul be ok;) |
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Ronaron303
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Posted : Mar 16, 2006 04:46
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On 2006-03-14 22:51, RajaRan wrote:
but its allways good to hear what the pro artists have to say! just beacause they allready done it before and with a good results
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Not all the pros did it before with a good results ,even after mastering) 
...ofcoarse mastering do pump ,thats "everybody" heard or knows)), but lets say ,or lets even ask :
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WOULD SOME OF THE PROS ,WILL POST HERE A SHORT TWO DEMOS(3min or so ) OF UNMASTERED AND MASTERED MATERIAL?
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cheers! and thanx for attention!
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Ronaron303
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Posted : Mar 16, 2006 05:48
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sorry ,forgot to add please . |
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sy000321
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Posted : Mar 17, 2006 12:37
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On 2006-03-13 20:51, sy000321 wrote:
compare your results with released material
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the released material is after compresing and mastering and many kind of thing that makes the track FAT. but for all of this, u need to do a good mix. and thats what i want to know. how to do it.
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compression is a part of mixing
a good mix should sound very diferent from a master... again, masterization is just preparing a mix for a format (mp3, cd , vinil, whatever)
roll a joint or STFU :) |
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sideFXed
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Posted : Mar 18, 2006 15:12
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it helps to have visual reference of your mix... well it doesn't count that much as your ears do...
try to use span www.voxengo.com (free) or waves paz analyzer. squeeze some released material through it and compare your mix. very helpful.
rms is a good point to start. there's alot to find out. www.google.com
soundcloud.com/epsylohm |
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br0d
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 20, 2006 09:07
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you know a mix is good when you bounce while working on it. simple but true! if you can't crank it up and go YAHhh!!!!! then just delete it and start over. if it don't fit, don't force it.
hardest part is finding bass modules that don't kick out totally mushy crapola. |
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