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Minimal Monster
Minimal Monster
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 20:25
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sy000321
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 20:51
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compare your results with released material, tracks you like, ask your friends, try to hear it with diferent speackers, in the car, etc
  roll a joint or STFU :) |
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Minimal Monster
Minimal Monster
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 21:00
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fregle
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 21:04
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If you like it, it should be OK 
The ultimate goal when you mix is to do it so well that nobody heard you mixing. This is ofcourse impossible in practice, but that the theoretical paradigm. |
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Minimal Monster
Minimal Monster
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 21:22
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fregle
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Posted : Mar 13, 2006 21:35
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ow, sorry... misunderstood completely...
If you don't have the feeling that you have to turn up the volume or fiddle with the EQ when you play your finished track between other tracks. And you feel that way on every sound system you play it. |
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diskOtek
Entek
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 02:07
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you have to mix it so that every sound you want,should sound good in the right time..
you must not have something(perc,hats,0kick,leads,everything)that gets lost in the mix,no clip of course and clarity of sound!
if u understand me,i think thats the basics you have to do when mixing!
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Freeflow
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 02:07
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there are rules for almost everything
try the pan trick...
if you can hear a sound while panning it
left - middle - right
then it should be free from conflicts...
i think you can find a thread about it somewhere in this section...
hehe but it will probably be a project of it self to find it..
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index
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 02:09
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e-motion
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 02:54
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what he says is true... you have nothing you can compare well. things like the balance between kick and bass and the rest of the mix are hard to compare with released material.
well my mixing "trick" is having two listening sessions. one is like after not listening to the track for a while, i listen to some released material and then listen to my track, make everything clear.
now for the balance between the frequency bands what i do is listen to my track repeatdly (don't overdue or your ears will need rest !). now grab some released material and play it. start in a good reference point (like the main lead with everything played), put it at the same volume using your ear (your ear is the ultimate tool for measuring rms) and you'll feel the differences pretty obviously. you can also do the contrary (first the released then yours) but i find this better.
anyone here has more tecnhiques? |
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Ronaron303
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 02:55
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On 2006-03-13 21:00, RajaRan wrote:
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On 2006-03-13 20:51, sy000321 wrote:
compare your results with released material
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the released material is after compresing and mastering and many kind of thing that makes the track FAT. but for all of this, u need to do a good mix. and thats what i want to know. how to do it.
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Ask for unmasterd material here in this forum ,and maybe some of the pros will share their unmastered material and you will compare it.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 03:28
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there is many times huge difference between the final mix and the premasterd version....
sometimes even a ~50% difference in clarity...but that of course depends on how much work you spent in the mix stage...
so premastering can do alot.. but its easy to ruin the track with too much of everything..
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e-motion
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 12:07
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hmm i want some unmastered stuff too !  |
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 12:54
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Besides my tunes I have heard a lot of unmastered breakbeat tunes and then the mastered vinyl/CD.
The main difference is the loudness of the mastered version and the "corrected errors" (if any) in the mix.
Provided the mix sounds good to start with, the difference is negligible (besides the volume).
Find tunes that are similar to the style of tunes you've done and A and B your track to the tunes you think sound good on a P.A., hi-fi system...etc.
Getting a mix right is no easy task, especially when it becomes very busy (typical in trance tunes) and it takes experience, good speakers and good acoustics to get things right.
Most important get to know the sound in your mixing enviroment. Play tunes that you know sound great on the dancefloor, in your studio and "learn" that sound, so that you can reproduce it with your tunes, should you choose to of course.
Other than that, try to mix at normal listening levels. Your ear drum starts tightening up after long sesions of strong levels. Although you could say that that is exactly what happens to the punters when they have been in front of the P.A. for 6+ hours, your ears will start "lying" to you if you do that.
Anyway, one common practise is to keep the levels very low in the mixdown process. It is more apparent which elements are too low or too loud when you can barely hear them. Get them roughly close and then go back to approx. 85dB to continue mixing.
Compress tracks that are out of control and try bus compression, side-chaning and stealth compression to get your desired results.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Mar 14, 2006 14:33
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