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Input
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 16:51
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Hi everyone,
I just want to refresh my mind and all the other which are not sure about it,
What is the recommended way to mix a final track?
Mixdown or export all the sounds seperately for eq and compression or export different eq ranges togheter(for example snares and such of kind alone, hihats and high-freq and so on)
Normalizing, Eqing, compression, ultra maximizing, all the phases of mastering - any information is important - i kindly prefer answers from who is already mastered some professional stuff and not theories from the book,
Thank you all in advance.
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Mike A
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 19:00
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Well, if you can put the eq's and stuff before the mixdown it would be nice 
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Te_nTe
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 20:45
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with which program you made it???
and where you wanna to do the final mix???
anyway
Try firstly to listen each channel and start from one and put on the other channels (i mean first kick then kick&bass then kick&bass&percussion....)
eq'ing - learn that boosting freq's is making the sound less live less clean - do it only if there nothing to do instead
about compressing - it depends on what you want to hear - you can put leveler on the master - if needed.
You can also put compression on the whole track but this needs very very proffesional ear and knowledge.
i dont like the ultra maximizer - they make the sound brh.... dont know how explain that - but the sound is not really live and clean. |
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I.D.a.N
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 22:34
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How exactly do you make a track sound more proffesional? Are there any guidelines or instructions on how to EQ a track, how much reverb to put, in order to get the proffesional sound?
I have serious problem with getting to the level of sound I want.
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Te_nTe
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Posted : Oct 29, 2003 23:37
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there are no guidelines about how eq - the guideline says not to boost freq's if it's not needed or if there nothing else to do.
getting higher level by eq is only by reducing "unneded" frequencies
like if you take the sub bass
you can get higher level by reducing the high freq's (1khz and higher) , when you reduce it by eq , the level will rise.
about reverb - it depends on what you wanna hear
putting reverb on the master channel - it's a science .
pm me if you have specific questions |
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Input
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Posted : Oct 30, 2003 12:00
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Te_Nte, I'm working with Cubase SX, with VST instruments ofcourse and physical synths(Virus, Supernova, Orbit3 etc.)
1st i'm mixing down the midi tracks to audio tracks then working on them a bit but there is so many ways of doing it so i going back to my question - what is the recommended and professional one, maybe nectarios can help ?? |
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billy ambulance
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Posted : Oct 30, 2003 12:09
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I use compression on the master but the problem is when I got a break or something like rolling snare then the level is high and good but when all the channels kick back in, the level goes down abit.
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Mike A
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Posted : Oct 30, 2003 12:30
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Input - the professional wai, imo, is make all the mixing in cubase.
Since you recorded the real synths to audio, you can apply all the mixing things on them, real time, in cubase. That's what I do anyway
billy - don't compress the master then. Compress only the things that cause the high level.
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Te_nTe
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Posted : Oct 30, 2003 19:24
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Billy , your problem is wrong compression settings
use hard knee compression on tools like snare and also fast attack time .
about eq in final mix - i prefer not to use those tools on master channels , as i said i dont like then the sound . if you use it do it as nectarios said - just boost a little bit and then set fast attack&release.
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billy ambulance
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Posted : Oct 31, 2003 14:25
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well, Im using compressor to add gain to my tracks (so I can play `em at parties) so not using comp its not my desire answer. you all wrote aprovel (?) to things I thought I know.
I think that what I dont know will come through expiramenting with multi-band compressor.
10x guys..
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Triptocoma
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Posted : Nov 2, 2003 08:44
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a multi-band compressor can be real sweet... very good tool =D |
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solipt1c
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Posted : Nov 2, 2003 09:13
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u cant take a not-very-professoinal track, and in the final "mixing" stages, apply a bit of EQ and compression and stuff, and then get a pro sound.
production-mixing-eqing its all inherently linked. for example if u put more reverb on something it makes it more background than another sound -> can be comparable to turning it down (psychoacoustically). choosing where to put the filter cutoff on your vsti is altering the timbral content of that synth and thus analogous to eqing that synth, even tho you're touching any eq...
Good production is holistic. Reading this article might help, although I havent finished it yet:
http://www.dnbscene.com/articles.php?mode=display&id=79
In the meantime a few quick bullet points:
- never add a sound which is crappy
- try to use as little eq as possible
- always try to use subtractive not additive eq
- grouping related channels (as you mention) can be helpful, especially for compression - eq, compressing your whole drumtrack can help to 'gel' it together
- multiband comp is where the series action in mastering is... unfortunately in inexperienced hands its more likely to destroy your tune... so go easy with it
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Input
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Posted : Nov 2, 2003 09:17
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solipt1c,
thanks for the link, haven't read it yet but i'm sure it can be helpful for many of us,
have a good time |
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Boogieman
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Posted : Nov 3, 2003 12:40
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i use a multi band compressor(Prosoniq- Dynasone) in the master track, i really like the sound with it.
for equing is like solipt said, try to use less as you can, try to make your sound perfectly to fit your track and then you get higher results, just imo.
there is another vst really cool for mastering that is T-racks, try to use it
keep going
http://www.myspace.com/boogieman
http://www.quest4goa.com
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