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industed
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Posted : Oct 5, 2005 14:53
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hi ppl,i havent managed to do my own music yet coz iv been working to others ppl projects but not in trance scene.
i d really like to no at which level sud i stop the mix.
i was mistaken thinking that levels sud hit -4db on mvu? |
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EYB
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Posted : Oct 6, 2005 13:05
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I think best is to mix digital as loud as possible without clipping at 0.0db.
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Boogieman
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Posted : Oct 6, 2005 13:55
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industed
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Posted : Oct 6, 2005 15:37
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ok and wot about the headroom if i mix on -10 db,wot happens when it comes to mastering??
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industed
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Posted : Oct 6, 2005 15:38
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*-1 or 0 db i ment not - 10.. |
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cytopia
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Posted : Oct 6, 2005 23:04
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We just had some tracks mastered at 4CN studio, and one of the tracks was mixed down at -6db, i thought it would be a problem, but the master turned out fine, was one of the better tracks!
I personally usually mixdown with at lease 1db headroom at the extreme peaks. |
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NikC
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Posted : Oct 6, 2005 23:30
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in all honesty overall mix level doesn't really matter (as long as it's not something ridiculously low) as long as it sounds good, there are no blatant peaks and few freq clashes. It's just to do with complexity.
Just remember though, no clipping... before you mix down your track (if you're using cubase) play it through once on 0 without limiting etc. (silently if oyu want) and see what the final clipping output is on the mixer, then reduce the master out by that amount, play it again and make sure its as loud as it can be without clipping.
A good mastering engineer will make it sound better whatever the final output...
but again remember, "mastering is no quick fix, it's all in the mix" practise makes perfect hehe 
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Stranger_GR
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 09:58
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industed
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 13:07
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nick are u serious telling me to prevent clipping by adjusting the m vu????u no wot happens if u fuck around wit it??
i no that if u touch it u get burned....never do so if u already do....
i believe that the best is always to have some headroom,though its amount depents on the whole process and progress and on how u intend to master it..
but most wise ppl leave a biiiig headroom...
i sud become wise then...
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EYB
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 17:04
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On 2005-10-07 13:07, industed wrote:
nick are u serious telling me to prevent clipping by adjusting the m vu????u no wot happens if u fuck around wit it??
i no that if u touch it u get burned....never do so if u already do....
i believe that the best is always to have some headroom,though its amount depents on the whole process and progress and on how u intend to master it..
but most wise ppl leave a biiiig headroom...
i sud become wise then...
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Digital mix doesn't need headroom.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 20:10
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On 2005-10-07 17:04, EYB wrote:
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On 2005-10-07 13:07, industed wrote:
nick are u serious telling me to prevent clipping by adjusting the m vu????u no wot happens if u fuck around wit it??
i no that if u touch it u get burned....never do so if u already do....
i believe that the best is always to have some headroom,though its amount depents on the whole process and progress and on how u intend to master it..
but most wise ppl leave a biiiig headroom...
i sud become wise then...
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Digital mix doesn't need headroom.
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Undertow is right.
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UnderTow
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 20:19
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Colin, of course I am but I didn't write that. 
industed is talking about a "m vu". I'm not sure what he/she means. Are you looking at a VU meter in an analogue console?
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NikC
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 20:35
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On 2005-10-07 13:07, industed wrote:
nick are u serious telling me to prevent clipping by adjusting the m vu????u no wot happens if u fuck around wit it??
i no that if u touch it u get burned....never do so if u already do....
i believe that the best is always to have some headroom,though its amount depents on the whole process and progress and on how u intend to master it..
but most wise ppl leave a biiiig headroom...
i sud become wise then...
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Umm... I'm talking about sequencing using a sequencer like cubase, and personally i've never been "burned" and all that's happened when i "fucked around with it" is that I get nasty sounds when it clips and a good sound when it doesn't. From what i know (and what EYB said, and Colin agreed with, and UnderTow was innately right about ) Digital mixing doesn't need headroom because it's... well... digital. Analogue i can possibly understand if only i knew what you were talking about mvu...?
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 21:08
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On 2005-10-07 20:35, NikC wrote:
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On 2005-10-07 13:07, industed wrote:
nick are u serious telling me to prevent clipping by adjusting the m vu????u no wot happens if u fuck around wit it??
i no that if u touch it u get burned....never do so if u already do....
i believe that the best is always to have some headroom,though its amount depents on the whole process and progress and on how u intend to master it..
but most wise ppl leave a biiiig headroom...
i sud become wise then...
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Umm... I'm talking about sequencing using a sequencer like cubase, and personally i've never been "burned" and all that's happened when i "fucked around with it" is that I get nasty sounds when it clips and a good sound when it doesn't. From what i know (and what EYB said, and Colin agreed with, and UnderTow was innately right about ) Digital mixing doesn't need headroom because it's... well... digital. Analogue i can possibly understand if only i knew what you were talking about mvu...?
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Boobytrip is right.
(well if you're going to dig yourself a hole you might as well make it a big one, eh)
Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
OOOD 5th album 'You Think You Are' - www.is.gd/tobuyoood :: www.OOOD.net
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NikC
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Posted : Oct 8, 2005 01:30
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On 2005-10-07 21:08, Colin OOOD wrote:
(well if you're going to dig yourself a hole you might as well make it a big one, eh)
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Skazi is right.
 
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