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Apocalypse Now
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Posted : Nov 23, 2002 09:50
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BAAAAAH!!
its too subjective to argue about. Just forget about it and listen to what you like.
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Kaz
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Posted : Nov 23, 2002 13:44
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Yumade is minimal and NOT progressive - END of story. I found a perfect example of minimal that's NOT progressive. Therefor, the statement is not true. What's so hard to understand here?
Unless you define Yumade as progressive (and they're NOT), this should have ended the debate a long time ago. Krumelur is minimal but not always progressive - he has a very full-on attitude to his music.
The only connection between the two is that minimal is a style where every sound has a meaning and should be perfectly in place - with nothing random whatsoever. This happens to be the same attitude that brought progressive music - but it's NOT a necessary connection, just like I might say that all full-on is noisy.
All full-on music is noisy, but not all noisy music is full-on. Correct or not?
No. Not at all.
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Nov 23, 2002 14:15
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yes kaz is right 
but can't there be tracks that are JUST progressive?
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Kaz
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Posted : Nov 23, 2002 16:28
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Tiny Giant
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Posted : Nov 23, 2002 19:27
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Hi,
the prop is that there are so much different meanings...
i have a meaning of what progressive is but someone else has a totaly different meaning about it...
So you can´t say what progressive really is....
....trust your ears...... like Apocalypse Now...
...... stay tuned.....BOOM
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Nov 23, 2002 19:47
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but can't there be tracks that are JUST progressive?
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it was a retorical question
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Mammoth Hunter
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Posted : Nov 23, 2002 20:22
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I do not think that many people who like progressive psy-trance, techno trance, tech-house, and so on would call these styles minimal. Minimal is a collective term that covers a wide variety of music to the point where it is not very descriptive.
I wish I had heard more Lish tracks, because they definitely seem like a very talented trance act, but I wouldn't call "Symphonies of Sickness," released on Flow's "Motion Generator" compilation either minimal or progressive. The rhythm and the effects still have something from full-on, but it's really good music which in the end is all that matters!
BTW, does anyone know why their track on the Phonokol "Psychedelic Blonde" compilation is called "Kakvo Iskach" which means something like "What do you want" in Bulgarian. I'm really curious what the Bulgarian connection is .
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full_on
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Posted : Nov 24, 2002 08:51
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Can't you define what is minimal, progressive, full on, etc... in terms that are precise like bpm, etc...
What makes a minimal track and what makes a progressive track?
We're talking about psytrance, right?
Is there minimal techno trance???
I'm very confused here....
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Luars
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Posted : Nov 24, 2002 23:49
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Progressive is not minimal ,minimal can be progressive or not.. But there is realy good minimal progressive tracks..
Initia for exemplo.. is progressive, but seens like minimal . right ?
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Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 01:24
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All good music is good
All bad music is bad
TRUE?
stop loving music because of its genre, love it cuz of the music itself
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Mike A
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 12:12
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Surg, stop the bullshit.
Categorization of music is there for a reason.
It's like food. When you're ordering something at a restaurant, you know what you're ordering. Same thing here.
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Lyri
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Posted : Nov 25, 2002 14:47
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Sound Surgeon, it isn't true and like Mike said there is a reason for that, it is there for a cause.
And you can't describe something bad because it is a matter of taste and of a personal view and idealism.
And as for prog and minimal -- I still reckon minimal is minimal and prog is prog.
And both are types of sub genres and not genres themselves, just like there can be minimal techno and minimal industrial-metal and same with prog -- prog black metal, prog rock, prog baroque (classical) etc.
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eyeC
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Posted : Nov 28, 2002 14:18
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prog is just that "dancefloor" kinda while its beats more compersed n all complexd with nice rythems |
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