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messing up thread :)

draeke
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 18:18
Ok i know this will be very difficult and controversial, but i try: is it really so wrong to hunt and exchange old and ancient traxs never released and that 99.9% will never be? I mean track produced and played by djs in early goa days from like 1993 to year 2000.

I absolutely disagree with today kid scene trading lastest and up to come artist music and this is a real shame (we discussed enough about this subject in junya thread) but therefore i want to know what artist think on this issue. If i like them so much and beside owning all they released material i still look for some oldies never appeared am i totally to blame ? By the way i am not talking of livesets and or live version which are considere very personal by every artist (and i agree).

I take as example etnica tracks that floated even too much and that many times were recorded illegally at their liveset (in israel especially as max and mauri personally told me) and this is bad but how bout the trax who were made in studio and never made it to a proper release?

Do these gems need to stay on forgotten dats on shelves of djs only? i frankly doubt this and i dont see any particular damage to artist careers and or current projects. Point your opinion

Cheers
Federico
Mike A
Subra

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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 19:33
Let the artist themselves release them. Somewhere.
Basilisk
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 19:43
Hmm, I speak not as an artist but as a record collector... I would even extend the question to all releases 1993 - 1998 currently out of print and hard to find. Especially vinyl releases. Even if one did track these items down in a 2nd hand store what difference does it make to the original label (probably dead) or producer (might not even be around still)? Once all originals are sold out from the outlets, and you can only find the releases in 2nd hand shops, what harm is done? Most of us fanatic record collector types need to own the original eventually anyway, but some items are so difficult to track down and absurdly expensive (i.e. Karma 209)...

As for Etnica... the rmx to Vimana is very much worth hearing (anything else I've caught, not so sure)... but why the bias against old live sets/live versions? One of my favourites to listen to is the old Koxbox set from Burning Man... so old they open with Acid Vol. 3!!

I wish I were more connected to be able to hear the lost tunes of the classic era... I bet there's some stuff that never left DAT for various reasons that would really put a smile on me... well, here goes contraversy...
PsyBeats


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Posted : Apr 22, 2004 23:08
I'm also a collector of the old stuff whether it be vinyl or cd.. I have some vinyl and cd's of various artists who's work is now deleted from record labels and everywhere. Yet the music is still very well worthwhile listening to. In these cases, I've had to settle with an mp3 copy of the music, even though I really want the music on its original release.
For example.. I have the original vinyl pressing of Vicious Pink's 8:15 to Nowhere, it was released for only 6 months in the UK only in 1984. I acquired the vinyl and then was offered over $3000 US for it by various DJs... Who can afford such high prices for such rarities, when even the artist sees nothing of it?

More recent stuff for example for Psy Harmonics records.. I have been after Third Eye - Ancient Future album from 1993. Though Psy Harmonics is still around, they have said that this is deleted, and don't even offer a cd-r version.. Even though they sell CD-r versions of other deleted stuff.

If we have to wait for the artist to release it, we'd die of old age 1st.
Ron Lyner
Ron Lyner

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Posted : Apr 23, 2004 18:33
i dont think its a big problem if the tracks are not going to be release.

if no label wants to release it, it doesn't means that the artists don't want people to hear it..           http://www.o-zen.com/art/ranal
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