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dija
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Posted : May 9, 2007 07:28
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Making music can be great at times but most of the time to me it is more of an obligation. Often it is not very fun but the work is worth the brief moments of joy I get from it. A friend referred to being a musician as a curse...which I can agree with to an extent. |
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : May 9, 2007 08:50
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Parapsyched, I understand your point. I agree, one should have fun while doing it.
I think what he ment with the "fun" thing, was something else.
I believe he ment: Making music just FOR fun (not invloving any thoughts or purpose, not thinking about the meaning, the consequernces, the responsibility)
It's the artists choice of course. as always.
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : May 9, 2007 11:40
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BTW.
Since it is a nonprofit label I don't consider this advertisment.
http://www.fiin.ch is dedicated only to music which has a lot of personal expression, music that touches. No matter which style.
http://forum.fiin.ch (just starting, needs english speaking folks! to get going more) is a forum for musicians and listeners wanting to make and looking for such music. (not ment as a substitue for this forum, but as an addition) check out the label mission or forum philosophy to know what I mean. there are nice features in the forum. have a look.
---sorry if mentioning that here offended someone.---
BTW2: Atma, Your album is great!
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bukboy
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Posted : May 9, 2007 15:51
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I think putting a message in repetitive stereotypical production line music (psy) would be like bible-bashing every1 repeatedly, over and over, and over again, with messages that were considered as fleeting and replaceable as the music is. 
Christ would the producers please not sell out to the hippies? :-D What do the hippies pay u with anyway? |
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XuN
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Posted : May 9, 2007 19:33
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Bukboy:
Why would it be like bible-bashing?
If you create something from your heart, whether its blues, rock, pop, trance or hip-hop, I would think that if theres a message in the song/track, it would just be like having another synth. If you can fit some song into a track in 145 BPM, then why not do it? If it feels like the right thing to do... I mean, thats what I would call artistic.
Be spontaneous, be intuitive, be real... Thats what makes an artist. If your calculating, measuring, then you are a scientist...
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
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Posted : May 9, 2007 20:34
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vision dream
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Posted : May 9, 2007 23:00
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hi there..!!! so complicated! i think everything its a message from the people whose need demonstrating some ideas or of communicating with something or someone ..!! Simply the messages is a part of the evolution, the messages that the music transmits wing serious hearing the feelings, .... they are many things do not believe it!!!?? |
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Seppa
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Posted : May 10, 2007 01:13
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I don't agree Music as any other form of art is often been a way to communicate idea and thoughts.....
Now psytrance is not really about this, cause there is no lyrics, and its more about having fun at parties and such ...
there is nothing wrong with sending a message, I actually think this is a good thing if it doesn't get too cheesy. |
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-aeon-
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Posted : May 10, 2007 10:55
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i always reverse-encode messages into my music.
usually they just say boring stuff like 'satan rocks' and 'the devil has all the best drugs'.
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Tomos
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Posted : May 10, 2007 10:59
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Music is a journey of notes through time, reaching a conclusion or resolution. There will always be a message, even if you don't use a sample. |
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mk47
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Posted : May 11, 2007 07:35
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and just wtf kind of `message` are we all looking for here anyway ? its electronic dance music, made to be played LOUD .. at parties .. boom tss boom tss .. happy full on , dark stuff , prog .. whatever . its basically .. boom tss boom tss dance music wich is supposed to make people dance ! and why are some people here claiming that melodic boom tss boom tss music has a message ??
want message ? .. listen to Dylan or someone .. theres still a few things synths and samplers cant do
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : May 11, 2007 09:15
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On 2007-05-11 07:35, mk47 wrote:
and just wtf kind of `message` are we all looking for here anyway ? its electronic dance music, made to be played LOUD .. at parties .. boom tss boom tss .. happy full on , dark stuff , prog .. whatever . its basically .. boom tss boom tss dance music wich is supposed to make people dance ! and why are some people here claiming that melodic boom tss boom tss music has a message ??
want message ? .. listen to Dylan or someone .. theres still a few things synths and samplers cant do
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Narrowing down a whole genre to "no message" or "no expression" just because it's electronic and contains "bum zss"...
For me thinking and acting like that as a musician would be waste of possibilities.
expressionless, messageless psytrance just makes me jump up and down, at best gives me "kind of" a trance (mostly of borredom) its ok, already sometimes very special and maybe at a very low level psychedelic. But I tell you what. It's just the beginning!!! So many people are satisfied with that, maybe because they don't know that there could be more, or because they are afraid that there can be much deeper experiences.
Psytrance with expression and sense brings me into states of beings... not to tell...
The things I experiences with psytrance which was combined with the qualities of "other music" when it comes to message and before all EXPRESSION, actualy involved EVERY kind of way music can function were so extremley intense... and all this while dancing in trance for hours... outside with other people... Wow!!..
Why should I wanna miss that?
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
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Posted : May 11, 2007 14:03
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On 2007-05-11 09:15, subconsciousmind wrote:
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On 2007-05-11 07:35, mk47 wrote:
and just wtf kind of `message` are we all looking for here anyway ? its electronic dance music, made to be played LOUD .. at parties .. boom tss boom tss .. happy full on , dark stuff , prog .. whatever . its basically .. boom tss boom tss dance music wich is supposed to make people dance ! and why are some people here claiming that melodic boom tss boom tss music has a message ??
want message ? .. listen to Dylan or someone .. theres still a few things synths and samplers cant do
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Narrowing down a whole genre to "no message" or "no expression" just because it's electronic and contains "bum zss"...
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bom tss boom tss ??? hehehe
Well this is the diffrence between psychedelic trance and other generes who only play: bom tss boom tss, dance music ! I mean the message is the diffrence !
I was making techno music and working with estabilished labels from Europe since 1991 but in 1995 -1996, when i first meet goa trance music i quit making techno.
WHY ??? Well, because techno & house music was all about "bom tss, boom tss" and psychedelic music was special. It had a message to spread !
It's really sad to see after 10 years, that peoples stopped to belive in this music and in it's true meanning !
It feels like i spend 10 years of my live for nothing ! 
NEW ALBUM OUT SOON !!!
"ATMA - Music Revolution"
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Anak
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Posted : May 11, 2007 14:22
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I don't agree Music as any other form of art is often been a way to communicate idea and thoughts.....
Now psytrance is not really about this, cause there is no lyrics, and its more about having fun at parties and such ...
there is nothing wrong with sending a message, I actually think this is a good thing if it doesn't get too cheesy.
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of course this was a rather extreme example. let me put it otherways. imagine a track or song (with or out without lyrics - it is not impossible to express feelings without using lyrics or vocal samples). let's assume this is a sad song expressing unease towards humanity these days, still it might be that, for you, it means something else, maybe it reminds you of loss, lovelorn, whatever...nothing wrong with that! i just think that, in this case, it's not about what sort of message is being sent but how it is being received. i don't mind what sort of impact my music has on the listener, as long as it does have one.
it's true that art "is often been a way to communicate idea and thoughts....." but it is my opinion that it is more important that something is being said than that it is understood. Anakoluth A Pebble in Your Eardrum's Shoe since 2001!
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bukboy
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Posted : May 11, 2007 16:15
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Im having flashbacks to that godawful sample in a deedrah track "smoke wee'ee'eed every dayyyy'yyyy"
Goddamit I hate that STUPID message. Damn all messages to hell!!!!! |
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