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vision dream
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Posted : Mar 21, 2010 21:54:56
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well now that i know the menor and mayor scales. i would like to ask help about which ones i use in most of the times for electronic music
i heard that the menor are the most used in trance,
example in the bass could use the c menor
and get 1 3 5 4 grades of the scale,and made a bass line so nice.acording to the scales are perfect. right!?!?
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orange
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Posted : Mar 21, 2010 22:34
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minor and major?
well depents on the mood you want to acieve.. minor makes easier dark and melancholic feelings.
major gives a more happy more uplifting sense.. ( theoretically )
but always depents on the overall notes combined together and how scales are build to achieve the feel of a track.
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Upavas
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Posted : Mar 21, 2010 23:11
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Elad
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Posted : Mar 21, 2010 23:24
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On 2010-03-21 22:34, orange wrote:
major gives a more happy more uplifting sense.. ( theoretically )
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very theoretically ....
most "hora" songs (old israeli classic happy dance style) made in minor scale
vision dream - time to learn phrigian aeolian and gypsy scales (or modes)
they make really nice moods 
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Sanathana
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Posted : Mar 21, 2010 23:27
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willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 21, 2010 23:49
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terrafractyl is fucking awesome. NEW ALBUM PLEASE |
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Shiranui
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Posted : Mar 22, 2010 07:02
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There are more than just major and minor keys
there are 8 "modes" in traditional western music, that are made by basically taking the same pattern and shifting it (so you take the same sequence of notes, and depending on which note you start on, you have a different mode: C ionian is D dorian is E phrygian is A aeolian is B locrian...)
Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_modes
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Mar 22, 2010 08:06
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thx for the introduction to terrafractyl. wow. i wanted to combine classic with psy for a long time. this is so good. I even started getting Rachmaninoff midis to play around with, it was to difficult for me at the time to make something decent of it.
+ i don't want him rolling around in his grave if i make a mess of it. respect
Glad to know there is music like this being made.
Thx again.
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willsanquil
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if you haven't already, get the terrafractyl album....probably my favorite (non-Twisted) album of 2009  |
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Mar 22, 2010 08:17
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no 1st time a hear. brilliant. i look out for it
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Mar 23, 2010 02:40
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You can also use ascending scales (Melodic Minor) for Build up parts of the song and descending scales (Natural Minor) for PreChorus parts and then maybe the major relative of the scale for Chorus.
This gives a very story like theme to the song. But you need to know what you're doing in order to make it work. |
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Elad
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vision dream
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Posted : Mar 24, 2010 18:11
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Greek Scales
The Greek scales in the Aristoxenian tradition were (Barbera 1984, 240; Mathiesen 2001a, 6(iii)(d)):
* Mixolydian: hypate hypaton–paramese (b–b′)
* Lydian: parhypate hypaton–trite diezeugmenon (c′–c″)
* Phrygian: lichanos hypaton–paranete diezeugmenon (d′–d″)
* Dorian: hypate meson–nete diezeugmenon (e′–e″)
* Hypolydian: parhypate meson–trite hyperbolaion (f′–f″)
* Hypophrygian: lichanos meson–paranete hyperbolaion (g′–g″)
* Common, Locrian, or Hypodorian: mese–nete hyperbolaion or proslambnomenos–mese (a′–a″ or a–a′)
* f: Hypermixolydian (or Hyperphrygian)
* e: High Mixolydian or Hyperiastian
* e♭: Low Mixolydian or Hyperdorian
* d: Lydian
* c♯: Low Lydian or Aeolian
* c: Phrygian
* B: Low Phrygian or Iastian
* B♭: Dorian
* A: Hypolydian
* G♯: Low Hypolydian or Hypoaelion
* G: Hypophrygian
* F♯: Low Hypophrygian or Hypoiastian
* F: Hypodoria
Modern
Ionian I C T-T-s-T-T-T-s
Dorian II D T-s-T-T-T-s-T
Phrygian III E s-T-T-T-s-T-T
Lydian IV F T-T-T-s-T-T-s
Mixolydian V G T-T-s-T-T-s-T
Aeolian VI A T-s-T-T-s-T-T
Locrian VII B s-T-T-s-T-T-T
Mode White
note Intervals in the modal scales
prime second third fourth fifth sixth seventh octave
Lydian F perfect major major augmented perfect major major perfect
Ionian C perfect
Mixolydian G minor
Dorian D minor
Aeolian A minor
Phrygian E minor
Locrian B diminished
Mode I II III IV V VI VII
Name Melodic minor Dorian ♭2 Lydian augmented Lydian dominant Mixolydian ♭6 or "Hindu" half-diminished (or) Locrian Natural 2nd altered (or) diminished whole-tone (or) Super Locrian
Chord C-maj7 D-♭9 E♭maj♯5 F7♯11 G7♭13 Ař (or) A-7♭5 B7alt
Mode I II III IV V VI VII
Name Harmonic minor Locrian Natural 6th Harmonic Major ♯5 Ukrainian minor Phrygian major 3rd Lydian ♯2 Super Locrian diminished
Chord C-minmaj7 Dř E♭-maj7♯5 F-7 G7 A♭-maj7 (or) A♭-minmaj7 B-Dim7
Mode I II III IV V VI VII
Name Double harmonic scale Lydian ♯2 ♯6 Phrygian ♭4 ♭♭7 Hungarian gypsy scale Locrian Nat6 ♯3 Harmonic Major ♯5 ♯2 Locrian ♭♭3 ♭♭7
Chord Cmaj7 Dbmaj7 Edim7nat5 F-maj7 G7flat5 Abmaj7#5 Bdim7flat3
meaning this it's what you aim. am i right'?
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Uedi
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vision dream
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thanks im so glad that you support me. but now could explain me about this..
SCALES C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab A Bb B C
Enigmatic R b2 3 b5 b6 b7 7 8
SCALES C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab A Bb B C
Locrian Natural 2nd R 2 b3 4 b5 b6 b7 8
Natural Minor R 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 8
Harmonic Minor R 2 b3 4 5 b6 7 8
Dorian R 2 b3 4 5 6 b7 8
Melodic Minor (Asc) R 2 b3 4 5 6 7 8 |
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