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dindindon
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Posted : Mar 28, 2009 16:57:40
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heloo friends, i would like to discuss about melodies...how do you create melody?what is a melody? how it is need to look?how do you build your melody?
pleae help me and a lot of people that maybe dosent know about melodies...thanks  |
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aXis
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Posted : Mar 28, 2009 17:48
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steal it , till u own it. |
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supergroover
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Posted : Mar 28, 2009 18:22
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play your keyboard until you find something you like. Or edit the keyboard in your DAW.
To progress your melody there are many options. It basically comes down to what you think sounds good. |
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Kane
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 28, 2009 18:57
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Try messing around until you find a scale you like, and just go from there.
 You believe in the users?
Yeah, sure. If I don't have a user, then who wrote me? |
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Chemogen
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Posted : Mar 28, 2009 19:29
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Use Cubase's Track FX on your MIDI channels. |
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Lunar_Cycle
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Posted : Mar 28, 2009 20:54
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Try throwing down a simple chord progression and listen to it over and over again. After awhile you will hear in your head something that works well =). |
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dindindon
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Posted : Mar 28, 2009 23:42
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thanks guys
you are telling nice things!
actually i didnt understand how melody needs to look...
what need to be in melody...
please someone can upload a picture how melody looks?how do you produce the melody in cubase?on the 1/4? 1/8? 1/16?
lets get deep inside the world of melodies and counterpoint:) |
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bukboy
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 00:53
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The reason you're getting such worthless answers, is because to create melody that is both striking, pleasant and consistent with whats playing, you need to consolidate at least a basic book on harmony.
Most of the people on here haven't bothered or are just plainly disinforming you with hippy propaganda like "just make what sounds good, and get high".
I think you wouldnt be too surprised to learn that all the guys who make the best tracks, have some very decent musical backgrounds, ( which they pretend are not important , until you ask them very direct questions about it)
So my advice number one is get a beginners book on it. (my advice number two is to not get too involved unless you're serious about making music your full-time career, because it takes too much effort to be viable while doing another job)
Heres one tip however that the hippy advice artist who give out completely useless advice like "just make what sounds good to you" wont give.
Before making a melody you have to have a perspective on what its meant to do, and this will both limit its construction, and give you direction, saving time in both cases.
For example for a fluffy dynamic song you'd probably have a melody that jumps all over the place, based on some pretty simple cadences, in the beginning stages where it would be more restrained, until the track needed more energy.
Thinking about the groove would also affect how you placed the notes in the melody, how its contour would be affected.
And in the end, you'd have something that was pretty good at eliciting the intended moods, and be not exactly "free" in terms of allowed possibilities, but pretty good never the less. But the point is that without the overall perspective, there is no direction for creation.
So then the first step to making a melody. learn and understand what it does and how it works. ( get a decent book ) |
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 01:59
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Tuetrax
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 08:38
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Bukboy:
"(my advice number two is to not get too involved unless you're serious about making music your full-time career, because it takes too much effort to be viable while doing another job)"
I guess that depends on how you spend you time and how focused you are, doesent it? How can you say he shouldent get too involved unless he wanna make it a fulltime career? it is possible to get very involved in your hobby, right?
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 10:50
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On 2009-03-29 08:38, Tuetrax wrote:
Bukboy:
I guess that depends on how you spend you time and how focused you are, doesent it? How can you say he shouldent get too involved unless he wanna make it a fulltime career? it is possible to get very involved in your hobby, right?
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both true
you probably will never be as good musician as one who does it for living.
my brother now learn in music college and trust me , what he learn in a week is stuff most people wont know ever if they practice this as hoby.
yet you can enjoy and make great music as hoby too www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/ |
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Lunar_Cycle
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 10:57
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On 2009-03-29 00:53, bukboy wrote:
The reason you're getting such worthless answers, is because to create melody that is both striking, pleasant and consistent with whats playing, you need to consolidate at least a basic book on harmony.
Most of the people on here haven't bothered or are just plainly disinforming you with hippy propaganda like "just make what sounds good, and get high".
I think you wouldnt be too surprised to learn that all the guys who make the best tracks, have some very decent musical backgrounds, ( which they pretend are not important , until you ask them very direct questions about it)
So my advice number one is get a beginners book on it. (my advice number two is to not get too involved unless you're serious about making music your full-time career, because it takes too much effort to be viable while doing another job)
Heres one tip however that the hippy advice artist who give out completely useless advice like "just make what sounds good to you" wont give.
Before making a melody you have to have a perspective on what its meant to do, and this will both limit its construction, and give you direction, saving time in both cases.
For example for a fluffy dynamic song you'd probably have a melody that jumps all over the place, based on some pretty simple cadences, in the beginning stages where it would be more restrained, until the track needed more energy.
Thinking about the groove would also affect how you placed the notes in the melody, how its contour would be affected.
And in the end, you'd have something that was pretty good at eliciting the intended moods, and be not exactly "free" in terms of allowed possibilities, but pretty good never the less. But the point is that without the overall perspective, there is no direction for creation.
So then the first step to making a melody. learn and understand what it does and how it works. ( get a decent book )
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Or you could just throw everything this guy said out the window and come to the realization that creating any form of art is an act of creativity, not a science  .
He's not wrong when he says that you should grab a book and get your learn on though. It really does help tremendously. |
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Tuetrax
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 11:13
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Elad & Lunar cycle: I agree with both of you, and yes of course reading a bit on nodes/harmony stuff will help. no doubt , and it shouldent keep you from making music just because you dont know anything about this:) |
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Psynaesthesian
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 11:59
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"A pretty girl .... is like a melody ..... that haunts you night and day....."
there are no rules of application just rules of theory .. STUDY THE THEORY (boring - but u will not get anywhere without it) and permute and combine as you see fit once you've mastered it .... very effective also if you do this side by side your music projects - but you may feel fatigued and slow on productivity - but it will only get better in time! provided you have time on your side!!
for me this is the easiest way (but as i said - no rules) ....
start with a drum-bass groove and get it moving - design a pattern / progression focusing on these two parameters of the track first (adding fx at this stage wont hurt either - may give you some ideas!) - this does not take too long if you leave the tweaking till the end!!
once you've made a basic skeleton of drums - bass - fx progression - choose your lead / favourite synth (or just your your old worn out 'luv her to death' guitar if you have) and just play along with loop segments; try different timings, patterns, key / chord progressions and practice practice practice - work work work!!
in the midst of all this ... make sure you have some sort of way to put down / inscribe your ideas ... unless you have the memory of a genius (there is no skill to top reading and writing music - period .... and btw I CAN'T, and i hate myself for it), music tends to throw your mind in many different directions - which is not bad but too much on the plate may give you a tummy ache!!
Do a search here .. there are many interesting threads with info and links which have helped me loads!! Thanx isra - liens!!
Good Luck!!
B'om Shankar!!
"... b'om ..." |
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Tuetrax
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Posted : Mar 29, 2009 12:26
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well said |
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