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Melody Tutorial
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kiri008a
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Posted : Feb 3, 2007 23:35
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Hello,
I serach a Melody Tutorial (step by step)
for Beginner. Who can i found it?
Bye
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Feb 4, 2007 00:13
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chans
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Posted : Feb 4, 2007 08:34
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y dont u take some piano lessons??? |
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bukboy
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Posted : Feb 4, 2007 18:53
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In order to understand how to make a melody that works with all the other instruments u need to understand harmony. in order to make a melody that has a message/function u need to understand rhythm, phrases, motifs, intervals, form, although this list is very incomplete.
In either case you should learn how to read music. Its not that hard actually.
When u can do that then u will have the tools to learn harmony, rhythm and the rest.
http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory1.htm
is a nice place to start.
Im afraid there are no shortcuts. Music is not a sublime supernatural thing that great composers do. Its a skill u pick up by learning more and exercising what u learn. |
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s0ft
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Posted : Feb 4, 2007 19:25
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some basic music theory will help out a lot. understanding chords and (like bukboy said) harmony, you'll go miles.
Mike A once shared a pdf on some basic music theory. this was a long time ago. does anyone have that link? its a wealth of information.
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Feb 4, 2007 19:27
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Just trying around on a keyboard till it feels good is also a possibility.
I do it that way. But in the meantime I know some chords...
But much more I like inventing my own chords  (I guess they already existed before, but from my point of view I invented them.)
In the end is you heart that decides over a melody.
To much knowledge easily leads (not always) to artificial emotions.
Most of my music for you to download at:
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s0ft
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Posted : Feb 5, 2007 00:34
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soulfood
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Posted : Feb 5, 2007 15:45
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Just get a keyboard and use only the white keys 
If you Go from C to C, thats C major. If you start at A then up to the next A thats A natural minor.
You can build chords (triads) by missing every other note and playing sets of threes. i.e. C,E,G (Cmajor)
A,C,E (Aminor)
If you build up triads from C you will have a harmonised major scale sequence (Major, Minor, Minor, Major, Major, Minor, Minor). If you start at the chord based from A you have the harmonised minor scale sequence.
If you grasp all that and play around long enough it should start to train your ears to the basics then you can modulate it to a different key.
It's pretty simple really.
As for learning to read music it's not essential to learning theory. Just learn scales and then how to build chords from those scales. If you want to be a session musician, then learn to read music. If you just want to know the good notes to key into a piano roll (matrix editor) just learn what sounds good. |
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organix
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Posted : Feb 5, 2007 19:11
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bukboy
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Posted : Feb 6, 2007 14:54
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Although its not essential to learn theory to make mediocre music. It is essential to learn theory to make good music.
Yup... |
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soulfood
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Posted : Feb 7, 2007 01:40
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On 2007-02-06 14:54, bukboy wrote:
Although its not essential to learn theory to make mediocre music. It is essential to learn theory to make good music.
Yup...
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Say that to about 1000 rock bands |
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Yellow Warrior
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Posted : Feb 7, 2007 15:10
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Thats a Killer Tutorial, Thanks for sharing!
Rather than feeling that you're about to have the rug pulled from under you, let me teach you how to dance on a flying carpet |
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NikC
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Posted : Feb 7, 2007 20:31
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Right...
I have some slight difficulties with this hole idea of "melody tutorials"
I come from a complete classical background... so have learnt about theory from a young age.
However.. when I write, unless I do it subconsciously, I don't even begin to contemplate the theory behind the melodies.
For me it's how it sounds rather than anything else...
Here's my question:
If you can appreciate music listening to it... i.e. you can hear a melody that makes a shiver run down your spine.
Why can you not create a melody that makes the shivers run down your spine... without having to consult a textbook.
Theory of harmony is devised... in my opinion, as a way of putting sound into a comprehensible analytical context rather than it being the be all and end all of a piece.
Listen to Beethoven for example... even though he meticulously planned his structures - his melodies are still his own... and not born entirely out of theory. Considering also that he developed, with early romantic music, new concepts regarding theory too.. where did they come from apart from his own brain.
How can you tell one composer from another?
Surely that's to do with the fact that they've created melodies that are entirel their own as opposed to deciding:
"This chord progression is proven to go well with that... so I'll use it"
It would be like creating classical music with dance eJay..
For me... it's all about the sound.
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soulfood
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Posted : Feb 7, 2007 20:39
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On 2007-02-07 20:31, NikC wrote:
Right...
I have some slight difficulties with this hole idea of "melody tutorials"
I come from a complete classical background... so have learnt about theory from a young age.
However.. when I write, unless I do it subconsciously, I don't even begin to contemplate the theory behind the melodies.
For me it's how it sounds rather than anything else...
Here's my question:
If you can appreciate music listening to it... i.e. you can hear a melody that makes a shiver run down your spine.
Why can you not create a melody that makes the shivers run down your spine... without having to consult a textbook.
Theory of harmony is devised... in my opinion, as a way of putting sound into a comprehensible analytical context rather than it being the be all and end all of a piece.
Listen to Beethoven for example... even though he meticulously planned his structures - his melodies are still his own... and not born entirely out of theory. Considering also that he developed, with early romantic music, new concepts regarding theory too.. where did they come from apart from his own brain.
How can you tell one composer from another?
Surely that's to do with the fact that they've created melodies that are entirel their own as opposed to deciding:
"This chord progression is proven to go well with that... so I'll use it"
It would be like creating classical music with dance eJay..
For me... it's all about the sound.
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*applause* |
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illusions
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Posted : Feb 8, 2007 07:13
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Nik - Sure, as a listener you know what you like, and you can appreciate good music. But as a composer, when trying to create your own you bang away at the keyboard and you just spend hours doing that not really getting the sound that you want. Here some theory might come in handy - to atleast point you in the right direction. I know its helped me a lot.
I think, someone thats already learnt the theory, goes in those directions subconsciously.
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