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Maybe a stupid one.... (music theory)
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Suloo
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Posted : Aug 21, 2009 00:58
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as long as you dont need to do extensive chord progressions ( like orchestra or smth) i wouldnt care too much actualy...those one note melodys are easy fixed by ear and the theory of fitting chord together is not that important in electronic music imho...sound design is more important i just think..
so just make crazy sounds with nice progression, and thats fairly easy if you keep it simple.
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Upavas
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Posted : Aug 21, 2009 01:38
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Suloo
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Posted : Aug 21, 2009 01:41
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yea..but this kind of music is most often not made of real chord progression..just one note melodys..at least thats what i experienced with other producers and think to hear out of the music..
if one is able to do this chord stuff right..then it might be way more interesting music..but its a hard task imo..and we get good results with simple things as well..at least sufficiant..due to sound design and timing 
cheers
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Elad
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Posted : Aug 21, 2009 14:05
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learn to play an instrument. it only takes about a year before you can play it well and along the way you will learn all that simple stuff.. but its still too long for this pages.
there is sticky about music theory with many free learning sites , all the answers are there. its not yes/no qustions , there is actualy a hole theory about it. you cant master it here or even get the basics so well as much with guitar or piano under your fingers (also i personly prefer teacher then sites)
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jaim.emusic
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Posted : Aug 25, 2009 16:58
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Ok people, here some explanation:
What defines the music tone ? the harmonic progression of the music, which is how the notes interact with themselves.
When you play a chord, you can easily hear the combination between the notes. In trance style this can be better listened; But in Psytrance we have more notes played in 'arpeggio' - not all together, one per time - but this do not mean that we dont have anymore harmonic progession.
Example: if you make a melodic line composed by a D, after a A and after and F, you did not played a chord, but you start an harmonic progression in D minor.
So how the scales cames in ? A harmonic progression defines the tonal of the music. So if we take the up example: use a D minor scale on it, it will be good because (some) notes of the scale match the harmonic composition. Also there is the 'key' notes in the scales, witch sounds better in certaing types of chords (exe.: intervals of 5ths, of 3ths major or minor, depending of the intention of the music).
The key is: some notes can cause tension (a 2th minor interval, for example) and they dont usually get used.
I hope it can helps a little in music theory. There is so much, like the greek modes, etc.
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Becktrank
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Posted : Aug 25, 2009 23:00
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kinda off topic...
i was reading the same book, and the author saids
``sentence example: Most trance producers could easily be replaced by arpegiators``
funny hun
``We shall not cease from exploration - And the end of all our exploring - Will be to arrive where we started - And know the place for the first time.``
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Tomos
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Posted : Aug 26, 2009 00:21
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> Most trance producers could easily be replaced by arpegiators
What a depressing sweeping generalisation of an entire genre.
I would have expected more from someone writing a music book - every musician worth their salt knows that every genre has something worthwhile in it.
I don't particularly enjoy RnB, but I appreciate there are elements unique to its style. |
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aciduss
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Posted : Aug 26, 2009 17:28
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People told u melodies don't have to start at current scale's root note but... most tonal music always go back to it's root, it creates a feeling of conclusion, of coming home, and maybe you can start a melody in any note but it almost always should go back to the root or its fifth... that's the way the brain interprets tonal music... other wise your phrases will sound incomplete.
Establishing tonality is one of the first things that happen during a track, for example, first bassline drop should be the track's key, this way ur brain automatically interprets all coming tones based on this first one.
I recommend u read this:
http://www.howmusicreallyworks.com/Pages_Chapter_4/Index_Chapter_4.html
It will really help you understand scales... Most people live confused about this subject. |
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Mesq
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Posted : Sep 23, 2009 07:28
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On 2009-08-26 17:28, aciduss wrote:
People told u melodies don't have to start at current scale's root note but... most tonal music always go back to it's root, it creates a feeling of conclusion, of coming home, and maybe you can start a melody in any note but it almost always should go back to the root or its fifth... that's the way the brain interprets tonal music... other wise your phrases will sound incomplete.
Establishing tonality is one of the first things that happen during a track, for example, first bassline drop should be the track's key, this way ur brain automatically interprets all coming tones based on this first one.
I recommend u read this:
http://www.howmusicreallyworks.com/Pages_Chapter_4/Index_Chapter_4.html
It will really help you understand scales... Most people live confused about this subject.
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The first decent and appropriate answer in this thread.
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