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knocz
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Posted : Jul 15, 2013 18:15:10
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Hi!
Just wondering, how many of you use Max4Live in your live act?
My live set is dynamic -> lot's of loops, samples and VST's plus live mic channels being processed by the DAW, and I've worked on getting it all as stable as possible (however I still have the set recorded on a CD in the odd event of a catastrophic failure  )
My past experience with Max4Live (with A. Live 8) is production wise, as I find it a bit slow and sometimes just crashed the DAW, not being suitable for a stable setup.
However, I believe it's full of potential, breathing modular back into A. Live thus allowing to fine tune my setup.
Now with A. Live 9 I find Max to be better integrated and more stable (hasn't crashed yet [knock on wood]).
So what's your thoughts / experiences with this synergy?
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jul 15, 2013 19:14
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I use Isotonik 9 lite in my sets (a m4l device) and it works great and I have no stability issues. Live 9 m4l plugs/integration is definitely much more stable.
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mubali
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Posted : Jul 22, 2013 11:41
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I use m4l plugs I built and modified in my own live sets, and haven't had an issue yet. I also think it seems more stable in 9.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jul 22, 2013 21:03
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yeah much more stable in 9.
The only gripe I have with m4l devices is that they generate undo history items, so if you have bunch of m4l devices in your project you can pretty much say goodbye to being able to undo/redo anything.
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mudpeople
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Posted : Aug 7, 2013 04:51
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I use a couple m4l plugs in my live, mostly the ML185 and a program change device. Sometimes I use the analog step register to run the same sequencer to 2 different instruments so they don't actually play simultaneously.
I messed around a whole lot with m4l when i first discovered it, while developing my live setup, and Ive tried a bunch of different devices in a bunch of different configurations, but ultimately I stopped using most of them and started using VST step sequencers instead, specifically WOK ClockWOrK which lets every control be mapped to hardware controls so I dont have to look at the laptop very much.
My live setup is basically a bunch of sequencers running a bunch of synths, the only thing that isnt run by a sequencer is the kick, I couldnt find a good sequencer for it so I just use clips. ClockWOrK runs all the non-bass instruments, Tattoo handles percussion, the beta version of Venom 303 with its own synth turned off, I discovered, is the perfect bassline sequencer (the one thing i had trouble with, was finding a sequencer with note-length control sufficient enough that the bass notes dont blend). Program change m4l devices toggle sounds for everything except Tattoo. I still have to use the mouse to enter percussion sequences, but Tattoo makes it as painless as can be.
I usually have a recording device on the master channel too.
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Vermeee
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Posted : Aug 11, 2013 08:20
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On 2013-08-07 04:51, mudpeople wrote:
I use a couple m4l plugs in my live, mostly the ML185 and a program change device. Sometimes I use the analog step register to run the same sequencer to 2 different instruments so they don't actually play simultaneously.
I messed around a whole lot with m4l when i first discovered it, while developing my live setup, and Ive tried a bunch of different devices in a bunch of different configurations, but ultimately I stopped using most of them and started using VST step sequencers instead, specifically WOK ClockWOrK which lets every control be mapped to hardware controls so I dont have to look at the laptop very much.
My live setup is basically a bunch of sequencers running a bunch of synths, the only thing that isnt run by a sequencer is the kick, I couldnt find a good sequencer for it so I just use clips. ClockWOrK runs all the non-bass instruments, Tattoo handles percussion, the beta version of Venom 303 with its own synth turned off, I discovered, is the perfect bassline sequencer (the one thing i had trouble with, was finding a sequencer with note-length control sufficient enough that the bass notes dont blend). Program change m4l devices toggle sounds for everything except Tattoo. I still have to use the mouse to enter percussion sequences, but Tattoo makes it as painless as can be.
I usually have a recording device on the master channel too.
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if you can get ur hands in an apc 40 you can get rid off the mouse completly.... our setup somehoe is now kind the same but the difference s that i was able to abandon the screen...with the apc 40 you turn ur apc 40 into step sequencer with some specific script and then you can you use it as drum machines... im usin it with the drum machines from d16
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