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xoC
Cubic Spline

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Posted : Sep 13, 2012 11:22
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On 2012-09-13 04:29, Upavas wrote:
I see you have plugins coming up too, tell us more about those please.




The first one will be a vst3/vst2.4 synth. It is in it's GUI design phase, and will post it when it's ready for the beta test

It has some interesting things on the FM side. If you have, say, a 1000 Hz sine and apply some FM to it, it will oscillate between for exemple +/- 300 Hz, or +/- 500 etc. It's linear. The way we implemented FM in this synth it's like "logarithmic" FM. The modulation will oscillate for exemple between 500Hz and 2000Hz for 1 octave modulation, between 250 Hz and 4000 Hz for 2 octaves, and so on. On it's own, it's really difficult to get some stable sound but .... here enters a second parameter : wavestretch. It's like a sync, but only needs one osc : the freq of the osc defines the global frequency of the sync, and the wavestretch is like the freq of the synced osc.

When you combine this logarithmic FM and the wavestretch, while tweaking oscillators phase, you get very interesting results !
All three osc can be FMed, and ringmoded, and you add to that lfos, envs, a matrix mod, and a multimode moog filter.


The second one will be a dynamic EQ (its still in its design phase).
Let's explain with a peak filter, centered at 4.5Khz.
1) There will be a detection circuit, with a bandpass filter at 4.5Khz. You select the number of poles (1 - 4).
2) there will be a look-ahead limiter algorithm, triggered by the detection circuit, with look ahead time and soft knee parameters.
3) The EQ in itself : gain, threeshold, freq, Q (liked to the bandpass Q)

The look-ahead algorithm, instead of reducing the overall level, will reduce the EQ gain. The threeshold could be modifyed with the treeshold parameter in the EQ, and with gain, you could boost or cut.

So what is it's interest ? After getting so much dull tracks, or tracks which really lacks like 10 dB of high mids, when you boost there to get some balance, it gets harsh really fast, because some transients like the kick attack or the snare are getting really peaky.

With this EQ, you could boost somewhere, and dial some treeshold in to control the peaks, to only increase the density at that frequency. Dial in some soft knee to still let a little bit of dynamic differences between different transients.

the look ahead time correspond also to the limiter attack time, and could be tweaked to minimise distortion effects.

So as you imagine, it is more of a Boost EQ for mastering, in those situations where you need a "cure" EQ. It still "amaze" me the number of clients who can not for whatever reason, get back to change some things in the mix.

Last thing : the EQ in itself will have some linked behaviour between gain and Q. I will see when testing if we need to upsample to have better curves in high frequencies. You will be able to use it with low and highshelves, and in the future, some more interesting curves like the butterworth bandshelf.

Sorry for my english, i'm still a french guy, hahah.          http://www.storm-mastering.com
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Sep 13, 2012 12:38
^^^ I read all that, but I don't know what you wrote...maybe because I was staring at your avatar at every sentence. Man them speakers are lush!           
http://soundcloud.com/martianarts
xoC
Cubic Spline

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Posted : Sep 13, 2012 12:57
hahah !

yeah those PMC are just unbelievable. Their sound is huge, fat, deep, with a lot of depth, clean, i'm lacking more superlatives ^^

But they have made half of my favorites records a pain to listen to, because mix/masterings errors, distortions are so jumping at you ..... Especially on some nice darkpsy but with just ok production .... I guess that it's a really good quality for a mastering speaker.           http://www.storm-mastering.com
Babaluma
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 13, 2012 13:12
For the synth, you could think about including a switch for exponential or linear FM, like on my Blacet VCOs, best of both worlds!

http://www.blacet.com/

BTW, same superlatives with my ATCs, regarding monitoring. Badly mixed/mastered music really does sound bad. Sometimes makes me only want to listen to high dynamic range, audiophile quality mixes!
          http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
PoM
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Sep 13, 2012 13:18
would love to get a listen on these highend speakers you guys use !
xoC
Cubic Spline

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Posted : Sep 13, 2012 13:37
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On 2012-09-13 13:18, PoM wrote:
would love to get a listen on these highend speakers you guys use !



beware, you cannot go back to "normal" monitoring after !
After two weeks of working on site on the Hadra Trance Festival in France, the only reason I wanted so bad to go home was because i missed my speakers ... I NEED MY DAILY DOSE
          http://www.storm-mastering.com
PoM
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Posted : Sep 13, 2012 13:49
HAHA damn ..when i get a decent room i will save for highend speakers !

do you have find some music that sound great? reference track ?(psy or not)
Babaluma
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 13, 2012 19:04
yeah, i could never happily go back to "prosumer" monitors now.

there's loads of great sounding music out there, it's just harder to find after the introduction of digital brick wall limiting...

recently been really digging various things from steve roach, ishq, steely dan, blondie, and the b-52s (cosmic thing from 1989). all extremely well recorded and mixed, with high dynamic range. put that b-52s album next to a modern pop record (with the same perceived loudness), and there's just no comparison in the punch and clarity department!
          http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
makus
Overdream

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Posted : Sep 14, 2012 13:48
Steve Roach ftw. Very clean and so 3d. Love his music.

And yes, after working on some top speakers (and even my vintage jbls) and crying, after some really great audiophile setups, when people ask what to buy adam or krk or mackie... man, all i wanna do is facepalm.

          
www.overdreamstudio.com
faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht

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Posted : Sep 14, 2012 14:49
how about some biosphere yo           
The Way Back
https://faxinadu.bandcamp.com/album/the-way-back
PoM
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Posted : Sep 14, 2012 16:33
hey guys thanks for the suggestions ! i need to adapt to my new room that is way too small

makus but for mixing these monitors are good enought ! my friend still work on ns10 for top50 charts artists (not as only pair ) , cla work on ns10+ sub too and it seems he have many fan in this industry , imo with forum like gearslutz it s getting a bit overarted that very expensive monitors are needed to make great mix, it make ppl think , i sux its cause of the gears ... but for mastering it might be different.. the best of the best needed wihtout any compromises.

( i never heard a high end monitor though)
PoM
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Posted : Sep 14, 2012 16:54
about reference for modern trance/prog sound i like the tonal balance in the checksum from logic bomb tune. if you could check would be intresting to hears guys what you don't like in this mix ? it s maybe not very wide/3d and too loud but for my taste tonal balance matter more for a mix and this track is one of the few i really enjoy it in psy, i also like the sheen that remind me a lot the transformer sound of some gears but it s probably not this but it give me the same feeling.
wav file would be needed but i m not sure it s legit i uplaod just a small part of the tune ?

even if the music is not your thing, the technical side of this tune is WOW...really impressive work to me.
Babaluma
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 14, 2012 21:13
I'll have a track we can use, upload it, start a new thread, and post the link on Monday!           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
xoC
Cubic Spline

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Posted : Oct 4, 2012 12:35
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On 2012-09-14 16:54, PoM wrote:
about reference for modern trance/prog sound i like the tonal balance in the checksum from logic bomb tune. if you could check would be intresting to hears guys what you don't like in this mix ? it s maybe not very wide/3d and too loud but for my taste tonal balance matter more for a mix and this track is one of the few i really enjoy it in psy, i also like the sheen that remind me a lot the transformer sound of some gears but it s probably not this but it give me the same feeling.
wav file would be needed but i m not sure it s legit i uplaod just a small part of the tune ?

even if the music is not your thing, the technical side of this tune is WOW...really impressive work to me.



I find it a little bit to much "smile" curved. A bit too much subs, and a bit to but highs. Or you can see it lacking a little bit mids.

BTW judging highs on youtube is far from ideal ...           http://www.storm-mastering.com
PoM
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Posted : Oct 4, 2012 19:09
XoC thanks and funny my room was lacking highs and low ..maybe explain why the track translated perfect there. (in term of tonal balance )
on hifi,headphone and other place i heard it , it sounded good too but it was not critical monitoring condition..

have to check it again , now i have flat from a bit lower than 500 and up but under 250 it s the war

and yes youtube not the best..even the mp3 320 don t sound like the wav..it make me really wonder how it s converted to mp3 on beatport
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