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orgytime
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 12:03
hehe PoM! nono its ok, only critics help us further.
tell me each detail you hear/see please!
this is the process of learning xD
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 12:21
i think your mix is good man, you re really close to sound killer ! i got just one listen but i think you removed a little bit too much sub bass (but if you like it like that.. matter of taste )then the place of some sounds in the stereo field could be improved (i think some are too much in the middle )and the mix was sounding dry to me, it miss a killer reverb! (everyhting a bit in front and sometimes behind it feel a bit empty ) it just the small details you need to improve a bit but it sound good already.(basically i think it need a bit more depth from front to behind and from side to side )
orgytime
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 13:21
haha PoM, whats wrong with you? i thought you
would give us hard critics... but you praise us^^

i did not cut any low freqs, a miniboost with RBass
we made at 80Hz i think, but no cut. you have any
suggestion?

well, i have to admit that our reverb knowledgement
is bad... also the stereo thing... its like the often
explained 3-d thing, how you can imagine sounds...
we will work on this, thanks.

my thought goes to right EQing of the leads...
sometimes there are 3 layered leads... we tried
to give every lead sound its own place, but
somehow it nearly worked without EQing to much.
and the strange thing is, that i read often here, that layering same lead with different sounds is bullshit.
but exactly this helped us totaly to sound fuller.
so you see the problem^^

so, thanks for your "critics"^^           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
orgytime
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 13:58
Hey Colin!

i checked now your mastered track.
it really sounds good! to much high boost for my
taste but with 128mp3 those hights are gone^^

could you describe in short words what you did?
im really amazed how cool it sounds!
after listening to your mastered version my mix
sounds so airless >.<

cheers           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 17:25
I'm pretty sure I didn't add any high boost MP3 encoding isn't what I'd normally use as top-end EQ but he, if it works for you I normally work with a high-definition spectrum analyser to help tune my ears to what's going on but like I said I didn't have my laptop set up so I didn't have all my usual tools running. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have left it with that much top-end had I been able to see as well as hear what was going on.

The mix was pretty well balanced apart from not having enough subs so most of what I did was compression. Because this was a really quick job I didn't save the exact parameters but from memory, here's what I did
The chain:
First - my Secret Weapon plugin, with a custom preset doing phase adjustment and general enhancement. Don't ask, cos I won't tell you This is what adds a lot of openness and clarity to the track.
Then:
M/S encoder
Hipass
REQ2 for bass monofication
Oxford EQ - slight boost around 50Hz, slight dip around 400Hz
Waves C1sc - custom split-band bass compression
Waves LinMB - custom multiband compression
Focusrite Compounder - wide-band analog compressor with bass enhancement
Oxford Inflator
Waves S1 (working only as M/S decoder)
Oxford Limiter


          Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
OOOD 5th album 'You Think You Are' - www.is.gd/tobuyoood :: www.OOOD.net
www.facebook.com/OOOD.music :: www.soundcloud.com/oood
Contact for bookings/mastering - colin@oood.net
aciduss
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 17:56
Can we have secret weapon please? why don't you want us to know teh secret? pleeeeease XD
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 18:20
lol           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
OOOD 5th album 'You Think You Are' - www.is.gd/tobuyoood :: www.OOOD.net
www.facebook.com/OOOD.music :: www.soundcloud.com/oood
Contact for bookings/mastering - colin@oood.net
orgytime
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 18:25
rofl, thanks colin!           www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
aciduss
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 18:29
You just make us want it :/

Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 18:52
And you can have it... for €50 a track (discounts for album projects)

There are a million secret weapons out there, you just have to find the one that fits with the way you work. Listen and play and learn!          Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
OOOD 5th album 'You Think You Are' - www.is.gd/tobuyoood :: www.OOOD.net
www.facebook.com/OOOD.music :: www.soundcloud.com/oood
Contact for bookings/mastering - colin@oood.net
aciduss
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 20:26
Oh i'm learning, is not that i want YOUR SECRET is that i'd really like to know what kind of tools can give:

- phase adjustment and general enhancement
- adds a lot of openness and clarity to the track

shall we play guessing?

is your secret weapon hardware or software based?

xD
Alien Bug
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 20:55
Quote:

On 2009-10-20 20:26, aciduss wrote:
- phase adjustment and general enhancement
- adds a lot of openness and clarity to the track


if it is software solution, then I know whats this ;p           http://www.beatport.com/release/cross-the-atoms/1042450
http://soundcloud.com/alien-bug
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orgytime
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 21:40
gaaah leave colin alone, you greedy artists!
          www.soundcloud.com/orgytime
PoM
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 21:53
Colin said it s a plug , duuno if it s that tool or the compander that give the nice polished sound , it s sound a bit like some exciters or some kind of saturation, harmonic enhancer, it give a nice color to the track
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 20, 2009 22:17
Quote:

On 2009-10-20 21:40, orgytime wrote:
gaaah leave colin alone, you greedy artists!


I'm the greedy artist for touting for business on someone else's thread!           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
OOOD 5th album 'You Think You Are' - www.is.gd/tobuyoood :: www.OOOD.net
www.facebook.com/OOOD.music :: www.soundcloud.com/oood
Contact for bookings/mastering - colin@oood.net
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