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Mapping the terrain of Psychedelic Trance - an architectural investigation | help pls :)

gatulish


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Posted : May 21, 2003 18:50
Greetings, gatUlish is an Architecture student in Sydney. For his Graduation project he’s exploring the terrain of trance music and the rave experience.

The investigation is based on the belief that Architecture and our understanding of the human/built environment can benefit by understanding the music, the ‘experience’ and the spatial setting it take place in.


The investigation outline is available online (http://members.lycos.co.uk/gatulish/).


If you can, please answer the following questions…

your help is most appreciated and very important.

Some questions:

How would you define trance music?

What makes a good track?

What makes a successful party/rave?

What’s the importance of the ‘trance’ experience (musical, spiritual, cultural etc’)?

Is it interconnected with other fields? (science, complexity, new age, politics, drugs etc’)?

How important are the visuals for the ‘trance’ experience?

What makes successful visuals?

Do you think the spatial setting can enhance/is important for the ‘trance’ experience? (how)

What makes a successful spatial setting for you?

How do you go about making a track/ designing an event?

What annotation/scoring system do you use when creating/designing music/visuals/spatial?

Do you think the idea of a place for trance music lovers/makers – a central node for the culture – is relevant?

If yes, where would you locate it in the urban fabric?

How would you envision such an environment?

Other:

Many many many thanks,

gatUlish

** please feel free to forward this e-mail to whoever you think might be interested to get involve…
gatulish


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Posted : May 25, 2003 17:16
Nu haverim, help bevakasha

46 people read my cry for help,
thought about what is it they like about trance music and parties,
and yet not even one reply...

Hatzilu...

gatUlish
snowflake


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Posted : May 25, 2003 17:47
gatulish:
c'mon man it's to long for ppl to answer on this forum. you gotta do it multiple choice or get ppl contacts and do it on a personal basis this kind of question has to be on an interview basis (trust me i'm a sociology student i know this shit)
i hope that will help you get any respond to that

good luck mate and don't forget:           Out Here We're Stoned....
gatulish


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Posted : May 25, 2003 18:01
my dear snowflake,

well people do answer (I posted it on other forums - on isratrance and other trance nodes globaly)...

we haven't lost our hope yet

hey, tell me what your take on some of the issues...

lovelight

gatUlish
traveller
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : May 25, 2003 18:07
1. it's music
2. a good track is a track that i enjoy
3. good line up/feeling
4. it's nice i guess..
5. not really
6. visuals? you mean decos? i don't care.. i keep my eyes closed anyways.. but they are nice..
7. colours?
8. no
9. don't know
10. what?
11. none what so ever
12. no           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
snowflake


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Posted : May 25, 2003 18:48
you got a point gatulish, so i'll give you my answers.....
1. visualized sounds.
2. it's soul.
3. (by order of importance) ppl, music, venue.
4. don't know
5. yes and no (it's up to you)
6. it's not important, it's a part of it, you can't separate them
7. your state of mind (doesn't have to be drugs....)
8. it may. it's a matter of how much the spatial allows to dissconect from everyday reality
9. as been said above
10. too long to answer in this forum
11. same as the above
12. no it's a wroldwide thing there shouldn't be a center

i hope that does it for you, if you need anything else. feel free to contact me.
g'day           Out Here We're Stoned....
Chi
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : May 26, 2003 17:02
1- a psychedelic experience, musical journey

2- firstly, they have to be psychedelic. very psychedelic. has to have a groovy bass to be danceable, a few breaks in the middle and a large break in the end, which ends in a explosion of sound (climax)

3- outdoor, nice and good-looking people, not too crowded but not too empty, good chillout, no drug shortage/quality problems, free water and free fruit, lots of sun but not too much heat, lots of trees and most important good music

4- well it varies a lot from person to person... for me it's incredibly important because it's an escape route from the real world... a place where i can go when i can and need

5- i think trance is interconnected with various fields. most important ones (not in any order): tribal culture, space and alien culture, drug culture, peace culture, science/technological culture and all kinds of psychedelic culture

6- Very important... i guess nowadays in most parties there isn't much of a visual part... i think in the future this will be corrected, little by little

7- Various psychedelic patterns (fractals, etc), alterned in logical and ilogical ways, envolving and evolving from each other, changing colours

8- it is important for me. the space for the psychedelic experience can be either completely dark, or a bright sunshine in a tree forest. it varies with the mood and the music

9- ability to connect to whatever i want, whenever i want (music, nature, people)

10- i'm working my way to be a dj. about making a track, i've thought of that, but i don't even have the dedication i should have to a dj, so can't think of that right now...

11- "psychedelia", danceability

12- don't know about that... maybe it's a good idea, maybe not, like snowflake said... i'm divided

13- if that place was to exist, i would place it the further away as possible to any city, in the interior of Portugal for example...

14- i don't know... it would be a great place to spend a few days for me, but not to live. but i know many people who would live in that place for all their lives....

good luck
Panzer


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Posted : May 28, 2003 14:31
I think trance is too broad so I answer for GOA/Psytrance.

How would you define trance music? Electronic space music

What makes a good track? acid synths going mad but structured in a decent way

What makes a successful party/rave? the music and atmosphere

What’s the importance of the ‘trance’ experience (musical, spiritual, cultural etc’)? Spiritual

Is it interconnected with other fields? (science, complexity, new age, politics, drugs etc’)? complexity, psychedelica, drugs

How important are the visuals for the ‘trance’ experience? Very

What makes successful visuals? Psychedelic, loatsa colors

Do you think the spatial setting can enhance/is important for the ‘trance’ experience? (how) whatever fits the music or experience

What makes a successful spatial setting for you? if everything falls in place. Music, people, surrounding.

How do you go about making a track/ designing an event? Richness in sound and originality

What annotation/scoring system do you use when creating/designing music/visuals/spatial? the usual software stuff.

Do you think the idea of a place for trance music lovers/makers – a central node for the culture – is relevant? No...that doesn't fit the open, spontaneous and underground character

If yes, where would you locate it in the urban fabric? Nope...

How would you envision such an environment? I don't
kilokif
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : May 28, 2003 15:50
hi,
sorry i can't answer to all the questions
1-a nice way to travel
2-a nice story
3-people,dj's,place
4-???
5-NO
6-pretty important
that's all because i don't really understand some questions
nova
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  556
Posted : May 28, 2003 16:31
gatulish, (al deagot )

here are my answares... cant respons on all of them:

1. Trance music... the connaction between imotions to vibes.

2. i have no exsact answare for that one... not like "the start go with bla bla bass-line... break... melody...boom-tss...boom tss"...
i know a good track when im hear it and my lags satrt moving (and i have that big smile on my face)

3. hmm... party party... good party is a party with good vibe... i need the worm and friendly atmosphire... so it needs god locate, beautyful ppl, and planty of healthy trance (the deco is also a small part of it but not to much).

4. floating.... just floating...

5. NO! - for me, Trance is a special thing by itself.

6. well, i find it kind of importent...

7. ammm... mushrooms? kidding... dont know!

thats it! i give up! read it like a million times and still its hard for me to understand you! (and its tooo long!) - see? thats what trance make ya! - a lazy person

good luck!
mescaloid


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Posted : May 28, 2003 23:17
-- How would you define trance music?

Ancient, Spiritual,

-- What makes a good track?

taking you somewhere else then before

-- What makes a successful party/rave?

non commercial intents and spiritual people

-- What’s the importance of the ‘trance’ experience (musical, spiritual, cultural etc’)?

some of the last hopes for gaia

-- Is it interconnected with other fields? (science, complexity, new age, politics, drugs etc’)?

yes it is connected with everything in the universe

-- How important are the visuals for the ‘trance’ experience?

for those without other tools very important

-- What makes successful visuals?

not to be in dayly reality

-- Do you think the spatial setting can enhance/is important for the ‘trance’ experience? (how)

closing your eyes is the ultimate way


-- Do you think the idea of a place for trance music lovers/makers – a central node for the culture – is relevant?

no it would become like the indian reservations with commercial intentions and people will visit it like a zoo
gatulish


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Posted : May 30, 2003 17:14
Thank you all so much

collected (from this and other forums) quite alot of insights...

on and on and on

Lyri
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  324
Posted : May 31, 2003 22:53
How would you define trance music?
- Happy, emotional, some sort of a merry voyage.
What makes a good track?
- Good vibes, one that makes me happy and smile all day long.
What makes a successful party/rave?
- I'm not sure, haven't been to a party yet.
What’s the importance of the ‘trance’ experience (musical, spiritual, cultural etc’)?
Mostly spiritual and a 'free your body and mind' experience. Also musical, when it comes to losing control and just... explode.
Is it interconnected with other fields?
- Sure, it can be interconnected with anything u want it to connect with.
How important are the visuals for the ‘trance’ experience?
- in what manner? I think it can be visually attached to your head, such a lovely experience.
What makes successful visuals?
- Colourfulness, life, psychedelia.
Do you think the spatial setting can enhance/is important for the ‘trance’ experience?
- Yes, some space can help. I think when having a trance experience an individual should have some space to explore and to be free. Unusual environment (non routine) can also help (Psychedelia).
Do you think the idea of a place for trance music lovers/makers – a central node for the culture – is relevant?
-Yes, quite, if it doesn't get 'outdoors'. But on the other hand, it might end up commercialized and vulgar.
If yes, where would you locate it in the urban fabric?
- in suburbs or unknown places, in order to avoid unwelcome visitors.

Good luck.
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