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manipulate tempo of one clip while others stay the same?

Shiranui
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Posted : Mar 15, 2011 22:57:32
I hear some tracks do this. Basically I have an audio clip playing, with other stuff in the background also playing, and I want to use a brake effect or slow down/speed up just the one audio clip, without slowing down or speeding up the rest of the track.

I'm using ableton but I'd appreciate methods of doing it in other DAWs as well.
A.Rosengren
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Posted : Mar 16, 2011 00:09
Do you want the clip to slow down in tempo or in pitch, it's two different things. Or both?

I believe in ableton you can automate the transpose button quite easily on the sample/loop you want to alter. However in other daws this requires a bit more craftmansship

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willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 16, 2011 00:29
go into clip envelopes, transpose. Draw in automation lines...profit!            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Posted : Mar 16, 2011 19:42
or use a granulizer like Heizenbox,
or Tapestop http://www.kvraudio.com/db/tapestop_by_tbt
just insert them on the channel you want

there are lots of other pitch and tempo manipulating efx that you can use.
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Posted : Mar 16, 2011 20:43
you could also bounce the track/s and use the time stretch for some gritty granular fx.
Make sure to switch it to the texture algorithm:





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Shiranui
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Posted : Mar 17, 2011 15:55
Quote:

On 2011-03-16 00:29, willsanquil wrote:
go into clip envelopes, transpose. Draw in automation lines...profit!

That changes the key, not the playback speed
minus
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 07:59
time stretch it, or maybe pitch down or up, in cubase you can give individual effects to each loop,in audio,plugin's/processes and wet,offline effects? whats it called, whatever it works nicely
Plasmorh
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 10:17
cubase is perfect for this...

in cubase 5, u have tempo track.. who really automatizes(?) the tempo of the track into a graphic..

and u have pitch shift, who has envelopes aswell... and if u take off TIme Correction, the more high, the faster, the more low, the slower...

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acid_drive

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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 16:05
You can always use Cubase lock track option.
First set global tempo to bpm you desire for your track. Then klick the lockpad button on that track. That locks its tempo.
Now you are free to change global tempo and your track will stay in previously locked tempo.
Easy
Shiranui
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Posted : Mar 18, 2011 20:25
What frustrates me is that it's way easier to do what I want with traktor or CDJs than with any DAW... maybe I should just use those.

DAWs frustrate me in that they make it very annoying to escape the prison of the beat grid.
mubali
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Posted : Mar 20, 2011 04:54
When you are talking about doing it in traktor or cdjs you are mentioning a two step process. Basically, what you want to do is adjust the speed of one thing while another thing it is playing with stays the original speed. A two stage process in some ways, a one step process in others. Turn off the warp markers for the audio clip that you want to manipulate, and transpose down. With the warp turned off, the clip should slow down as well as pitch down. You could also do this using the pitch envelope with the time correction turned off in Cubase... however if you are using anything else, it might be a two stage process in which you take what you want to slow down, create a tempo slow down or speed up in ableton's master tempo automation, render it and import the newly rendered file to the rest of the project.

Lastly, let's not forget the original point of the software you're using. It's meant to put anything at any speed at a certain tempo... that means it uses the beat grid concept very well, and you might seem trapped by it, but this concept has completely changed how a lot of dance music gets made.... Read up on Ableton's warping stuff too...          An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Shiranui
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Posted : Mar 21, 2011 08:57
Quote:

On 2011-03-20 04:54, mubali wrote:
Turn off the warp markers for the audio clip that you want to manipulate, and transpose down. With the warp turned off, the clip should slow down as well as pitch down.

Ah, I see!

Now another thing I want to be able to do is not just to slow down audio clips, but also MIDI-controlled instruments as well. Is that possible without bouncing and modifying the resulting audio?
mubali
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Posted : Mar 21, 2011 18:12
that would be a tempo slow down and you can set it up with live to have several things be automated by the tempo automation, but if you only want some things affected and not others, you will have to treat it as a two step process... But it's far easier and less timeconsuming to just render all the parts you wanted slowed down once, and affect the audio.           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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