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astrotec
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 19:11
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who cares what it looks like? i don't. |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 19:51
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If I can't figure out why it doesn't sound quite right, then yes, I care what it looks like as it provides me with more information about the sound.
That there are so many frequency analyzers available does suggest that many people find them useful tools.
Put it another way - try using Gliss EQ 2 and then telling me it isn't useful in identifying where a sound needs EQ.
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astrotec
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Posted : Jul 8, 2007 08:10
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yeah that EQ would be quite useful............
if it didnt add shit loads of amplitude to the sound!!!!! check that 1, with 1 of your analyzers (EXOSCOPE) LOL
don't get me wrong they are handy in a way (especially 1s like exoscope n nugen), but its how it sounds that matters most, not what it looks like on your analyzer.
your ears will tell you a lot more about a sound than ANY analyzer/meter ever could.
for instance, an analyzer ain't gonna be able to tell you whether it sounds proper banging or not is it?
thats all i'm saying.
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Soundmagus
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Posted : Jul 8, 2007 10:30
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There is also the case for using analyzers when your room sucks or you have been mixing and your ears are tired.
check these plugins for soem awesome tools
http://www.rogernicholsdigital.com/
cheers
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Elad
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Posted : Jul 8, 2007 11:52
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one thing dont forget
analizer is like stupid machine
it does show you the spectrum true , but it cant identify beauty.
there are sounds look the same in analizer but one is great the other is shit...
i do use it , mostly for learning purpose , not much else... i meen , make music with your eyes ? possible , is gonna sound good ? not sure. its like painter who listen to the colors lol
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technomedics
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Posted : Jul 8, 2007 12:01
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like i said, there very useful for eqing if your monitoring situation if poor. i cross reference between moniotrs and headphones. sometimes the headphone pick up odd frequencies that the monitors dont and more often than not you can see these frequencies on the analyzer (but not always).
still not sure how an analyzer helps over the mix though. not sure i know what to look for...
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jul 8, 2007 17:29
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On 2007-07-08 08:10, astrotec wrote:
yeah that EQ would be quite useful............
if it didnt add shit loads of amplitude to the sound!!!!! check that 1, with 1 of your analyzers (EXOSCOPE) LOL
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you are aware that EXOSCOPE is an oscilloscope, not a frequency analyzer?
But aside from that - imagine that, an EQ that changes amplitude! What exactly is it that you think EQ does? But if you mean on flat settings - it does nothing to the sound.
To me ears Gliss EQ is one of the best EQ's out there.
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don't get me wrong they are handy in a way (especially 1s like exoscope n nugen), but its how it sounds that matters most, not what it looks like on your analyzer.
your ears will tell you a lot more about a sound than ANY analyzer/meter ever could.
for instance, an analyzer ain't gonna be able to tell you whether it sounds proper banging or not is it?
thats all i'm saying.
PEACE
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Of course not, but it will help you identify why it isn't properly banging, which is sometimes problematic.
Don't like em, don't use 'em, but I can assure you, its your loss.
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astrotec
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Posted : Jul 8, 2007 22:35
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you are aware that EXOSCOPE is an oscilloscope, not a frequency analyzer?
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omg really?
i didnt say it analyzed frequiences did i?
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But aside from that - imagine that, an EQ that changes amplitude! What exactly is it that you think EQ does? But if you mean on flat settings - it does nothing to the sound.
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and yes it does add amplitude with default flat settings!!!!! its cheap and nasty mate.
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To me ears Gliss EQ is one of the best EQ's out there.
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maybe you should try the pultec. |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jul 8, 2007 23:44
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lol,
I'm telling you I get great results out of it. not suggesting, straight telling you.
If you can't, that says more about your ability then the plug-ins quality.
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maybe you should try the pultec
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maybe you should take your head out of your arse, but we can't always get what we want, hey?
Furthermore gliss eq 2 does not alter amplitude at flat settings, because there is nothing active - the audio comes in and goes out again. That is it.
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astrotec
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Posted : Jul 9, 2007 01:09
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whatever. |
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nonseq
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 02:07
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If you go by what the spectrum analyser shows you, soon you'll be hacking away at useful harmonics and as a result you increase the unwanted noise. I prefer sweeping the freq spectrum with an eq to find out what has to be cut. Not saying it's useless, but in a reasonable monitoring situation you can easily do without, I think. |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 02:43
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f you go by what the spectrum analyser shows you, soon you'll be hacking away at useful harmonics and as a result you increase the unwanted noise. |
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this is very true. It is all too easy to get carried away and have to much of a good thing with EQ, or with very steep slopes introduced unwanted ringing at the slope edges!
You can never have too many diagnostic tools for your audio IMO. The skill lies in the actions you take as a result of the information - information is neither inherently good or bad, it merely is.
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astrotec
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 09:37
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shachar
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 13:55
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On 2007-07-07 19:11, astrotec wrote:
who cares what it looks like? i don't.
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in time you learn how to extract the knowledge from the analyzer by comparing to comercial stuff |
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Elad
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 14:04
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well analizer not showing you what synths they used or what monitors in what studio ey
again and again , i can send 100 kicks that looks the same on analizer but sound diffrent!
can u look on analizer and knowing what it sound like ? no!
it is nice for knowing if u went too far on sub (altho would be better to actualy buy a sub and listen)
its nice for knowing if u peak too much somewhere (well if its not sound like resonance , so what)
your ears worth more then crappy analizers
i wish peaple understand it and make music that also sound good not only look shiny on the analizer 
but , this what happen when your reviews on cd's sound like: i didnt like it , but the sound quality so good , album of the year!  www.sattelbattle.com
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