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piXan
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 03:44
as an ear`musician, its kind of hard to grasp nor the idea but the will write music guided by spectrum analyzers... but i decided i want to learn to do so, mostly cause i have a baby and im using a lot of earphones of late. well that said , id ask someone kind enough to share a direction or links where i can document or even a personal experience. i know i could google search but i trust u guys tons more..
catch ya..
Scala
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 05:22
u can make sound using meters not sure about writing music
Brain Hacked
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 05:47
Ive been told by a Pro who is teaching me that spectrum analizers are essential since most of us dont have proper room acoustics nor really pro monitors, analizers will help us a lot inorder to EQ in the right way
Vermeee
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 07:46
yo...i use the spectrum analizer to make music

i lik to observe what s happening in the frequencies while u change all the kind of stuff.. like per exemple make a note one beat longer....

and i use t he analizer to fit the things in the begginin in the right place

exemple... when i go use the kick,.. i look for the note where will fit it in the bass frequence i want enphase... exemplo..look for the note where the peak is around 60 hz - 70 hz...

welll thats h ow the spectrum help me in the process of creating...
technomedics
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 10:34
i use an eq with an analyser. i find that helpful in deciding how to eq individual parts but i'm not sure how you use an analyser over a whole mix other than to see that all frequencies are present. Some guidance from someone who knows more would be very cool.
cheers
m
Soundmagus
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 11:14
i am also interested in this for my production as my studio room is a CUBE (oh nooo, runs away screaming) and my good friends Guinea Pigs swear by it.

I will try and find a book or 2 and let u have them

SM
technomedics
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 13:05
nice one
TuK
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 13:05
i use voxengo gliss to eq, it has a buit-in spectrum analyser witch i find useful to see the whole picture while im eq but in the end it doesnt matter what i see i do what sounds good besides what the spectrum analyser tells me. i also put a spectrum analyser an the master chanel or use digi check and i check it from time to time while im producing to see that its pretty much flat with no resonance or dip in the spectrum unless its by purpose.
PolyTox


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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 13:23
Yes the voxengo gliss eq is a very nice tool to improve your sound. Besides that you can simple see where you have to cut-off some sound, you can work a little bit like seeing and hearing.
To me it helped a lot for getting the ear for the frequencys and their "function" in sounds. Just like which peak i have to set to get the bass more fat or more crunchy etc.
Think this should be a "think of" for you because its structured very simple to start making music by using the spectrum analyzer
shachar
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 15:28
i always check my mixes on analizer, it can direct you where to balance your mix.
sometimes 2 tracks can look the same on the analizer but will sound very diferent so its just a tool and the rest is up to you
i would recomend to work with monitors and acoustics and not headphones..
technomedics
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 15:32
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On 2007-07-07 15:28, shachar wrote:
i always check my mixes on analizer, it can direct you where to balance your mix.



yeah but how?
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 16:27
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On 2007-07-07 15:32, technomedics wrote:
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On 2007-07-07 15:28, shachar wrote:
i always check my mixes on analizer, it can direct you where to balance your mix.



yeah but how?


This sort of question can't be answered in a way that will instantly give you the knowledge you need. You have to spend a long time using the analyser, looking at released tracks, your own tracks, individual sounds, random audio off the internet, off the radio, off the TV... then you will have the experience to use a spectrum analyser as an additional tool to help your music sound good.

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technomedics
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 18:15
fair enough
i'm not looking for full instant knowledge but a few tips would be cool
do you use the analyser on the mix to look for peaks and troughs and to eq the mix?
are there any overall patterns - fully flat, more bass, smile, etc
thanks
mark
Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 18:33
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On 2007-07-07 16:27, Colin OOOD wrote:
This sort of question can't be answered in a way that will instantly give you the knowledge you need. You have to spend a long time using the analyser, looking at released tracks, your own tracks, individual sounds, random audio off the internet, off the radio, off the TV... then you will have the experience to use a spectrum analyser as an additional tool to help your music sound good.

No shortcuts. You need to gain experience.




+1

The more i learn, the more I realise this is the 'secret' to getting a good sound.

Analyzers are incredibly useful learning tools but can also lead people to do completely the wrong thing.

@Technomedics - look at several released tracks through your sepctrum analyzer. Compare what is similar as opposed to what is different. This is a good starting point. Personally I use a freq analyzer to do all of what you've suggested, but its very difficult to suggest specific things as its always invariably different!

It isn't as simple as EQing the track as a whole to conform to a commercial releases curve. Ideally, the sounds should be synthsized to conform to the curve without EQ, or EQ'd individually to affect the mix in the correct way to conform to this curve.
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technomedics
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Posted : Jul 7, 2007 18:47
thanks
time to get the analyzer out....

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