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PoM
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 21:49
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sound complicated but i guess it will look easier once in practice |
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woodster77
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 21:52
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you tried emailng them about it
when it comes to this stuff i wouldnt guess but it seems that the company tend to leand towards the hybrid side of things so its pretty likely you can
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 21:54
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 21:57
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you tried emailng them about it
when it comes to this stuff i wouldnt guess but it seems that the company tend to leand towards the hybrid side of things so its pretty likely you can
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yeah jered @ futur retro give great support, but he is a bit technical on these things so i don't understand much 
what i know is the Xs have protection and should not burn |
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woodster77
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 21:59
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 22:02
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On 2013-01-15 21:54, Junk Rhythm wrote:
It sounds more complicated than it is. It's like learning how to use MIDI or a new language but it gets easy once you mess around a bit.
If you ever have questions, shoot. I've been using modular synths for a few years and I'm glad to help where I can.
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yes for now its like chinese language to me.
for example the osc A -5 to +5 volt if i use it to modulate a filter frequency that accept 0 to +10v i will have 're scale the signal' like you said ? |
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 22:05
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nice !! |
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 22:10
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On 2013-01-15 21:54, Junk Rhythm wrote:
It sounds more complicated than it is. It's like learning how to use MIDI or a new language but it gets easy once you mess around a bit.
If you ever have questions, shoot. I've been using modular synths for a few years and I'm glad to help where I can.
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yes for now its like chinese language to me.
for example the osc A -5 to +5 volt if i use it to modulate a filter frequency that accept 0 to +10v i will have 're scale the signal' like you said ?
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Yes. As an example, you could use something like the Manhattan Analog CVP to offset the signal. I think Maths can do this as well.
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Junk Rhythm
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 22:23
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for example the osc A -5 to +5 volt if i use it to modulate a filter frequency that accept 0 to +10v i will have 're scale the signal' like you said ?
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Since the filter is most likely analog, you could still get away with sending the -5V/+5V signal into the 0/+10V input. It would still modulate but as soon as the modulating CV dropped below 0V, there would be no modulation. Still makes some weird and bizarre sounds, you just would not be getting the full range of modulation.
This isn't a good practice with digital modules though. Some will have protection that prevents the module from being damaged and some do not. Sending them negative voltages that they cannot handle can result in damage. A best practice with a new module is to read through the manual and get your your head around the inputs and outputs first. Do a few small patches to understand what is happening, then jump in and go overboard. Analog/Digital Synth Modules www.toppobrillo.com
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woodster77
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 22:24
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yeah maths can generate an offset
how would you mesure this though. getting into multimeter territory
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Junk Rhythm
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 22:31
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On 2013-01-15 22:24, woodster77 wrote:
yeah maths can generate an offset
how would you mesure this though. getting into multimeter territory
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Multimeters come in handy and everyone should have at least a cheapo one. Find one for under $10 and your are good to go. It doesn't need to be ultra precise. It only needs to show an estimate of what is happening for most musician uses.
The other way of doing this would be using your ears while demoing some slower modulations. Listen to the sound. If a module wants 0 to +5V and you are sending it -2V, there will be no audible modulation. Slowly adjust the signal until you don't hear the deadzone (lack of modulation) that a negative voltage would create. An LFO that goes -/+ voltage would have a really defined thump as it hit 0V and passed through it. It would not sounds as smooth as the rest of the range.
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woodster77
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 22:33
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On 2013-01-15 22:24, woodster77 wrote:
yeah maths can generate an offset
how would you mesure this though. getting into multimeter territory
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Multimeters come in handy and everyone should have at least a cheapo one. Find one for under $10 and your are good to go. It doesn't need to be ultra precise. It only needs to show an estimate of what is happening for most musician uses.
The other way of doing this would be using your ears while demoing some slower modulations. Listen to the sound. If a module wants 0 to +5V and you are sending it -2V, there will be no audible modulation. Slowly adjust the signal until you don't here the dead zone (lack of modulation) that a negative voltage would create.
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simple......excellent cheers mate
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 22:42
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thanks great explaination , it s a lot clearer now. |
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Posted : Jan 15, 2013 23:08
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On 2013-01-15 22:31, Junk Rhythm wrote:
The other way of doing this would be using your ears while demoing some slower modulations. Listen to the sound. If a module wants 0 to +5V and you are sending it -2V, there will be no audible modulation. Slowly adjust the signal until you don't hear the deadzone (lack of modulation) that a negative voltage would create. An LFO that goes -/+ voltage would have a really defined thump as it hit 0V and passed through it. It would not sounds as smooth as the rest of the range.
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I should mention that there are a few cases where this may not be the case.
Let's say that you have a filter that takes 0V to +5V and you have the FREQ knob set to the midpoint which we will say is +2.5V. If you were to modulate the FREQ CV input with a signal that is swinging back and forth from -2V to 0V, you would be bouncing the frequency back and forth from +0.5V to +2.5V. Modulation range also depends on where the knobs are set. Does that make sense?
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woodster77
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Posted : Jan 16, 2013 00:24
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just checked your site
some quality modules Josh...... |
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