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C3PO
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 5, 2003 20:45
i see that today's macs much slower than pc's in "mhz" ,
but for some reason they much faster in real performance
How this can happen ???

it's like soundcards for example: let's take 2 soundcards
like the new M-Audio "Revolution" and Apogee "Trak2" .

http://www.m-audio.net/products/consumer/revolution_page1.php

http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/prod_trak2.html

now let's take a look at the numbers:

M-Audio: 24-bit/192kHz ! +7.1 surround option .
price is less than $200 .

Apogee : 24-bit/96kHz only , no surrround option.
price is $3500 and more !

the question is: why ppl will pay so much for Apogee ,
when they can buy M-Audio for less price and more
performance ? maybe because Apogee have much better
external design ? because it looks better ?
oh i almost forgot , maybe because Apogee have those
cool built-in preamps ? I don't think so , because there is
MOTU828 card that looks good as Apogee, it has great
preamps and additional analogue 8 ins and outs extra...
And the 828 cost $795 only .
http://www.motu.com/english/motuaudio/828/body.html

Now let's back to the subject, it was about Mac and Pc .
The speed in Mhz and the numbers doesn't really matters,
there are lots of other things that much more important .
For the last 5 years i can hear lot of ppl say something like
"there is less difference between mac and pc every year"
"pc become more like mac and mac become like pc" .
But i don't think so , i see the difference is still like
10 years ago , things changes, technologys became better
but the difference not became smaller .

Another point is "softwareZ" that so easy to download
for pc , as i can see it's same easy to download for mac ,
it's just u need to download from different places .

And finally the last thing i have to say is about computer
freezes and blue screens : "THERE IS NO COMPUTER
THAT NEVER CRASH" , this thing just not exist .
Yuli
Retired

Started Topics :  40
Posts :  1660
Posted : Feb 6, 2003 01:29
Sorry C3PO, I still claim that in comparison to three years ago the differences are far smaller and doesnt worth the difference in costs.. Remember, to get top quality Mac u have to pay shitloads of money still, and I prefer Pentium 4, 2.4hz to 700hz G4..

And about the soundcards, it is not exact example, since the difference between Apogee and M-Audio cards is one of non compromise kind, whilst the difference between Apogee and Motu / Pc and Mac is definitely of the compromise kind and it is the skill of the user that counts in the compromise kind even more than the hardware itself...           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Trip-
IsraTrance Team

Started Topics :  101
Posts :  3239
Posted : Feb 6, 2003 18:55
folkz
having macs vs pc wars was REALLY not intended in this thread - so please...

as I remind you, the major reason to move to a mac for me is Logic 6.x - I don't think I would even think about moving if logic wasn't discontinued for pc.

cheers           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
Yuli
Retired

Started Topics :  40
Posts :  1660
Posted : Feb 7, 2003 01:40
That's the thing Phillip - I believe that eventually there will b logic 6 to PC.. Even tho it's in Apple's hands now.. well PC users are far too big a market to loose.. And since we live in a world where everything is dun has to be counted in green bills, including wars, then I am pretty sure there will b Logic 6 for PC's too           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Trip-
IsraTrance Team

Started Topics :  101
Posts :  3239
Posted : Feb 7, 2003 11:19
I hope u are right - but I'm pretty much sure they are not developing the pc version anymore.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
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Vibra

Started Topics :  10
Posts :  139
Posted : Feb 7, 2003 19:22
F****** APPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

with very little competition on the MAC side, the PC processors (Athlons vs Pentium) are getting faster in less time...

LOGIC 6 is a super software!

EMAGIC RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


          www.vibramusic.com
fechen


Started Topics :  4
Posts :  8
Posted : Feb 7, 2003 21:01
About the two buttons:
use a mac for a week and you will forget all about non-apple mouses.
Synthax
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  17
Posts :  271
Posted : Feb 9, 2003 03:48
"And finally the last thing i have to say is about computer freezes and blue screens : "THERE IS NO COMPUTER THAT NEVER CRASH" , this thing just not exist . " (C3PO says...)


thats mostly true, but i must admit the crash on the mac is much painfull, u stuck finnaly with a BOMB on screen and u till its restart...
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