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LSD consumers

Jaadoo
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Posted : Jul 8, 2007 18:03
Unfortunately human's mind and the nature was designed on the base of devision, just need to look around. I think the purpose of human life is to persue of respect fairness, common ground and pleasure.
(For me in the opposite order ;-)


shamantrixx


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Posted : Jul 9, 2007 06:49
Human mind perceives by the contrast and that makes our mind discriminative in nature. But our mind has also become the foundation of self awareness and higher consciousness. So there's no need to spend a life caught in the trap of black and white checkerboard.

Pleasure is really something that brings more troubles than joy. When you see something nice and feel inspired by it you feel joy. As soon as your mind recognizes joy and you begin to desire more of that what made you feel joyful... it ceases to be joy and it turns to pleasure. The difference is that pleasure always includes possession while joy is simply experiencing the moment of joy without any desire for feeling that moment again in the future or owning in any way the "thing" that brought you that joy.

As soon as you own something you instantly recognize the fact that you could lose it (weather on conscious or subconscious level) and certain amount of fear sneaks in. Fear leads to all sorts of problems and now we can see that desires and pleasures are really the most common source of human misery and sorrows.           "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"

Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity
Jaadoo
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Posted : Jul 9, 2007 15:57
It is so true, the first point.

Further, I see joy as the feeling of having pleasure. Maybe a matter of definition, and it is most natural to be conditioned to that, but as you said the higher consciousness shall kick in to consider and respect other factors before taking the joy.
Vermeee
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 02:01
think bout that... all ur beliefs u live for and the strutucture u are inserted..is somthing VERY VERY new...

i think we can afirm we live in the CAPITALISM era... which came from the CRISTIAN era... so what i m trin to point is that the capitalismi is also a religion...

some Ancient civilizations used to believe sun is god.
if we look for some decades behind... the god from CRISTIANISM had dominated the wolrd.. trhough european conquerin mission.

Now we can actualy say that the MONEY is god... but its very very subliminar....nobody admits it. but all we do is to get that fuckin "god" to make a living in this world... but all this... is so new but already empty

we, who live in that era, count the world as 2000 years.... the cristian era. but what 2000 years means when our ancestor are documented to be around that globo for 11 milions years ago ( homo erectus) or even 150 thounsand years ago ( homo sapiens).

so u cant fuckin say that the nature of human beain is on base of division that we live in the year 2007 AC or that we need a fuckin complex structure to survive. or that all this strutucture we live nowadays bout how to live, how to act, how to group ourselfes with other human beings is the correct.

we are all stuck in sin and pain, caused by that fuckin doutrine that we live nowadays. the church created the sin created the guilty created the hell ( the negative side from the universe, that is necessary for the equilibrium which was transformed in something to terrify people mind. ) And we must live through that mental slavery the neo slavery. we work for a group of few people in earth who are having pleasures and abundancy in all kind of ways.

Sorry for em who will burn in desesperation when they have to leave that physical and material world.

now.. what acid has to do with it ?

everything and nothing

they say bad things bout acid coz acid is bad for the health of u guys but is also bad for the safety of 'em.
its a POWERFUL substance which can show u lots of stuffs that isnt fair in the world today.
it brings a lot of counter culture ( see usa in the mids 60 )

LSD brings paranoia, brings a false feeling of power sometimes, brings fear, brings pleasure, brings true, brings lot of stuffs...
u decide wnat to take it or not
but half problem it can bring is related to the FEAR that society has been inserted today.

as instance...make a test....take a drop in a normal day in the big city where all people are in the rush going to work and stuffs like that... all dressed like ,
see how weird, infantil, stupid it will look. u guys will get a question WHY THE FUCKI ALL THIS ? WHY THEY ARE ALL DOIN THIS ... and stuffs like that...

see
its time to open our mind and think for ouselfe.
there are no rules or pattern to get a live...
if u want to be in the big city workin as a camel, centred on money and stuffs like that , be my guest,
if u wnat to live in cave, nice tooo, be my guest.
but it should be forbiden to make a whole world to believe in patterns, in a default way of living.

destroy the structure is a must...although the world is doin it for itself already.

long live LSD and others hallucinogenes






mk47
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 08:38
back on topic for a minute guys .. enough about lsd in general.. talk about taking it and making some tunes .. as i said before .. to me it seems kinda impossible to sequence stuff on a hard hit of acid .. there is however a lot of inspiation to be drawn from psychedellic drugs imo .. and later when ur `normal` .. maby it translates into some cool beats ..
Boobytrip
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Posted : Jul 10, 2007 12:02
In my experience it may be useful to drop some acid before checking your final mixdown and making some final tweaks (make sure you save the project under another name first !). However, i get too confused and distracted by minor details when i'm trying to compose on acid to be able to build a track. My computer screen looks like a pulsating vortex and my mouse pointer has a trail that's centimeters long. I've even noticed that i'm more productive when i havent take acid for a while, like there is some lingering effect on your imagination and your ability to initiate new actions long after the drug has stopped working.
danet
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Posted : Jul 12, 2007 15:04
when me and a friend has taken acid trips we allways have bringed computer and a midicontroler.

often i prepare a set of synths and a bassline whit some beats on it and then we just jam.
but most of the times it has ended up in us just sitting there screwing around with the synths just to see how fucked up sounds we can make.drooling over the controller to give up and take a look on the walls instead.           hypnotica records
http://soundcloud.com/thegrobians
Yellow Warrior
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Posted : Jul 12, 2007 16:11
i thought we could not discuss drugs here?!?
          Rather than feeling that you're about to have the rug pulled from under you, let me teach you how to dance on a flying carpet
Yamantaka


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Posted : Jul 12, 2007 22:55
I start producin...especially with my brother chapo...we're trying to create something at this point...

otherwise i just go fractal at home...

by the way, mixin lsd and meth gave the idea of non tempo based music...at a cosmo party...

www.myspace.com/yamantaka420

dija
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Posted : Jul 13, 2007 07:14
LSD is good for some people. It helps some people access insight that they do not usually have. Some people LSD is not good for. Usually these people have internal mental issues or medical issues. I'm not saying to go use lsd if you don't or to stop if you do. It is beneficial to both do it and not to do it. For me it is wonderful, with each passing second I consider a million thoughts and my emotions shift from second to second. When listening to music it removes much of my bias about what is good and not good. Since I am in every moment of the music and not analyzing it from a sober logical stand point.
Djones
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Posted : Jul 14, 2007 00:47
I just got back from Tshitraka and had LSD for the first time, and there are just no words to describe how I felt.

Awesome stuff, really great!

I felt totally normal, not drugged out like on Xtc at all.
Everyone on LSD was just smiling and doing the same trippy dance.
And the more I focused on my dance steps the more I got in Trance by the music.

The first time during the festival I had 3 X 175 mcg.
The next day 2 X 375 mcg.
And the last day about 500 mcg.

Besides I didn't notice any scary stuff or anything even close to it.
There was a guy selling nice colorful art cards, specially designed to look at when on LSD or other Psychoactive drugs.
And the colors were amazing, morphing into each other:-)
Every day after the LSD I felt really refreshed and clear in my mind and I felt I got really inspired by all the music I heard.

So I'm really thinking about giving LSD a shot anytime soon, to sort of help me make music.

Only downside I felt from LSD, it that 3 days after the festival I'm still feeling tired, but hopefully that's mainly my shortage of sleep during the festival.
Fuzulu
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Posted : Jul 14, 2007 15:58
Quote:

On 2007-07-12 16:11, Yellow Warrior wrote:
i thought we could not discuss drugs here?!?





its not a drug its just a holy sacrement
hahaahahha !
Jaadoo
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Posted : Jul 14, 2007 16:27
Quote:

On 2007-07-14 15:58, Ðårk §hivå wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-07-12 16:11, Yellow Warrior wrote:
i thought we could not discuss drugs here?!?





its not a drug its just a holy sacrement
hahaahahha !



yeah, and Albert is our prophet.


shamantrixx


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Posted : Jul 15, 2007 00:59
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On 2007-07-14 00:47, Djones wrote:
And the last day about 500 mcg.



Please be careful with dosage 'cause 500 mcg is very, VERY large dose. It's way beyond active dose (you can take 500 or 800 mcg but the effect will be the same, so you're just wasting acid). Probably you got diluted solution in 1:10 ratio. That would make 500 mcg of solution containing 50 mcg of LSD and that is a "standard" dose for LSD. So be careful when you repeat experiment and if you get liquid solution ask exactly for dosage and the ratio of solution. If you take 500 mcg without enormous previous experience and absolutely secured place you WILL regret that mistake. I have years of experience and I have tried large doses but 500 would make me think twice and probably to split in half. Even than it would be really LARGE dose.

So please be careful both with dosage and with spreading informations that could lead others to mistake           "It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"

Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity
Djones
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Posted : Jul 15, 2007 01:51
Quote:

On 2007-07-15 00:59, shamantrixx wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-07-14 00:47, Djones wrote:
And the last day about 500 mcg.



Please be careful with dosage 'cause 500 mcg is very, VERY large dose. It's way beyond active dose (you can take 500 or 800 mcg but the effect will be the same, so you're just wasting acid). Probably you got diluted solution in 1:10 ratio. That would make 500 mcg of solution containing 50 mcg of LSD and that is a "standard" dose for LSD. So be careful when you repeat experiment and if you get liquid solution ask exactly for dosage and the ratio of solution. If you take 500 mcg without enormous previous experience and absolutely secured place you WILL regret that mistake. I have years of experience and I have tried large doses but 500 would make me think twice and probably to split in half. Even than it would be really LARGE dose.

So please be careful both with dosage and with spreading informations that could lead others to mistake




As I mentioned I had twice 375 mcg and not 750 mcg all in once.
But still, you surprised me.
I will probably be more careful next time, as this was my first time and although I did take the recommended dosage of 350mcg, as recommended by the guy who was selling it, I in a way felt it wouldn't harm if I would add some a little later.

And in the end I didn't have any negative experiences or whatsoever.
And actually was a bit surprised it was such a mild effect, as I only saw the colors of the cards morphing and some other visual art got a little more exciting.
But maybe it is actually a better idea to start of slow.

Thanks.
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