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Solid Snake
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 19:08
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Practice safe listening levels
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Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 19:09
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On 2009-11-19 19:08, Solid Snake wrote:
Practice safe listening levels
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Full blast all night long,
you should tell this to party organizers! hehe
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EtherealMotive
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 05:21
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I've been reading alot of good comments about the a7+sub8 on gearslutz. Alot of people are saying really good comments about the combo, saying that the phasing issues are easily fixed in most rooms, even small ones. I think i'm just going to stick to my original plan and go with the A7's+Sub8. Thanks for all your help. |
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Elad
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 08:00
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good luck in tune the sub in the room... crossover points and levels can actualy change so much.
and since the point of it is to get better bass/sub on your tracks i hope you arent gonna have all the bass out in the track since you have so much in your ears.. it happens to me even when playing with the slope on my dynaudio bm6a.. enough to get it abit less in the monitor for me to add 3db in the mix. and vice versa when i add much bass then my track comes out very 'bright'.. after couple of years seems thats the right setting for me since my love to bass is endless and might 'choke' or to be a burden on the final mix so i add it from the speaker to give the bass less emphasis on my track while still hear it as fat as i like it.
for sure its not bad choise , but i have to ask how many gearsluts users making psytrance.. where all that sub/bass area is totaly different from any other (even from house and techno and sure from hiphop)
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Co-codamol
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 10:40
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Upon reading the thread it would seem that EtherealMotive wants a sub, has already made up their mind and is just seeking validation.
Go get one. Will it improve your mixing? maybe not. Will it improve your songwriting? Maybe you can pump it up and get some vibe going in your room, who knows.
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gutter
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 13:05
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Ascension
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 15:12
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Djones
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 22:35
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There's something I don't understand.
As do Headphones actually reach depths as low as 10-20hz or do they make us believe we are 'hearing' those frequencies?
What my headphone does, is convince me I really have a phat kick, but when I turn to my (krk RP8 G2) monitors, it all appears very thin with no low frequencies or whatsoever.
On the other hand, when I work visa versa I get dissapointed as well, as my headphone reveals all the ugly higher frequencies which weren't apparent on my monitors.
And stuff which seemed all real tight and properly mixed sounds fluffy on the headphones.
This back and forth swaying between headphones and monitors is very confusing.
It would be an idea to have a matching pair of headphones from the same brand as my monitor speakers.
Which really work together with no discussion to whether which of the 2 signals is the right one. |
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Co-codamol
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 22:45
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yes headphones can produce lower frequencies.
If it sounds thin on your monitors then you are probably sitting in a node. Speaker and listening position are crucial as well as acoustic treatment.
Matching headphones and monitors? Not the route to take. Sort your room out.
The room has more effect on what you hear than the speakers. Hence professional studios always have acoustic treatment. |
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Ascension
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 23:00
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It also depends on what kind of headphones you have. My technics rpdh1200s have a boost in the bass freqs, which is great for djing, but not monitoring. However, if you know your headphones well you can produce accordingly. I've written whole tracks with just my headphones and they have sounded just as good as ones using my monitors.
Also, the human ear cannot hear below 20Hz. This also means that detecting sound becomes more difficult as it approaches that frequency.
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 23:46
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On 2009-11-20 05:21, EtherealMotive wrote:
I've been reading alot of good comments about the a7+sub8 on gearslutz. Alot of people are saying really good comments about the combo, saying that the phasing issues are easily fixed in most rooms, even small ones. I think i'm just going to stick to my original plan and go with the A7's+Sub8. Thanks for all your help.
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please report your impression with this set up, i m wondering if a sub just add sub bass or if you get a more detailed low end in the 100/50 hz range |
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Co-codamol
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 23:51
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depends where you cross it over, its adjustable from 50 - 150Hz. but if your room isn't treated then you won't be getting detail with or without a sub. |
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EtherealMotive
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Posted : Nov 21, 2009 20:29
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On 2009-11-20 23:51, Co-codamol wrote:
depends where you cross it over, its adjustable from 50 - 150Hz. but if your room isn't treated then you won't be getting detail with or without a sub.
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My room is treated with 1 bass trap in each front corner of the room. 1 behind each monitor. and 8 Mid/high panels around the room. Plus i have a bed with a queen size mattress in the back of my room. Plus my floor is wood and is raised about 3 inches off the ground, with insulation in between. My walls are wood panels as well. I also have my monitors on stands with primacoustic recoil stabilizers underneath the monitors. My room has a pretty damn good stereo image with good dynamics. My issue continues to be with my BM5A's is the lack of energy I'm not perceiving accurately in the low end since is starts to slope below 50 hz. |
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EtherealMotive
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Posted : Nov 21, 2009 20:30
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On 2009-11-20 05:21, EtherealMotive wrote:
I've been reading alot of good comments about the a7+sub8 on gearslutz. Alot of people are saying really good comments about the combo, saying that the phasing issues are easily fixed in most rooms, even small ones. I think i'm just going to stick to my original plan and go with the A7's+Sub8. Thanks for all your help.
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please report your impression with this set up, i m wondering if a sub just add sub bass or if you get a more detailed low end in the 100/50 hz range
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I'll let you know  |
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EtherealMotive
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Posted : Nov 21, 2009 20:31
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