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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 22:56
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Its because of the panning law set to either -3db or more... check your project settings!
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Saii
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 01:00
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wats the panning law and what should the settings be?
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 09:41
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 11:10
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wow..thanks man .I saw this somewhere in sx once but could not get it and now I cannot find it damn..Where is it exactly in the preferences? Thanks for this links !
ah now I c it shift + s  I have on equal power.. is it the loudest? ...have to experiment with it and the links more.. nice comment Freeflow
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Saii
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Posted : Sep 27, 2009 17:30
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yea thanks for this but i dont think we have to worry about this in ableton, unless there is something im missing here!
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 14:16
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TimeTraveller - hey =) my pleasure
i my self never experimented much with it but its good to know its there and that in some situations you might have to have it in mind... Though in this area it seems Zonar are superior as you can choose from much more pan laws and experiment.. Anyway
Im learning new things everyday and i love your attitude about it... Another fresh day with the chance to learn more and hopefully do better, in all areas of life
Also this thread might be of interest
http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Board=MRT&Number=768275
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Does Ableton have built in pan law?
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gutter
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 15:31
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On 2009-09-26 20:16, Saii wrote:
yea mandari...thats what i want to do...all by myself...
remember, this is just all electronic psy so you dont really really really have to master them 
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terribly wrong.. especially the "by myself" mastering
90% of the artists that do that, they do it wrong and they cannot operate the full potential their mix has .. and im talking even about well known ppl
and mastering engineers do that!! they master.. they dont mix, they dont make music, but they know how to use an EQ and a compressor that way, to push your track and maintain the metacenter of the mix and that has taken years of experience
all this "i do it because i have the tools that can be used for that" is really useless imho, of course not only for you but for the majority of us here AND for well known artists..
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Saii
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 17:17
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gutter...im an artist that likes to learn EVERYTHIN that revolves around this "hobby" i want to be able to play live on big PA systems with tips and tricks from the pros but no one touching my tracks. i like it that way, im almost certain that yea it will sound much better if its done by experienced ears BUT whats wrong with experiencing my ears to do the job..then again its only practice! no harm can be done with fuckin around with mastering stuff...even if ur doing it wrong, eventually ull get it right from trial and error...it is much longer to do it that way but hey ull only get better if u learn it urself! and that goes for everythin in life...so pardon my opinion if u still think its wrong but there is no way in hell i do
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 18:01
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I think a lot of mastering engineers do music or have done music them selfs!
There is nothing wrong for a hobbyist to try your self, actually im with Saii here, its great to expand your knowledge and experiment, but i also agree with gutter, a experienced mastering engineers will probably lift your track(mix) to a new level which you would never thought of...
I think if you have made a great track it deserves to go through many ears and get the best attention!
Also in these days where almost(almost) everybody make everything in software its a nice touch to the music to go through some real expensive(or at least semi pro) gear... it will make such an difference..
really just by driving things through my Yamaha Aw1600 i can notice a more fuller sound.. and man its a great tool for live playing and live mixing at home 
At first i thought man why did i buy this thing, and now im like wow it was a great investment.. and i think im going to buy some multieffect for it so can do more dubs with more FX... life is good with FX! haha
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 29, 2009 23:01
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On 2009-09-28 14:16, Freeflow wrote:
TimeTraveller - hey =) my pleasure
i my self never experimented much with it but its good to know its there and that in some situations you might have to have it in mind... Though in this area it seems Zonar are superior as you can choose from much more pan laws and experiment.. Anyway
Im learning new things everyday and i love your attitude about it... Another fresh day with the chance to learn more and hopefully do better, in all areas of life
Also this thread might be of interest
http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Board=MRT&Number=768275
Saii -
Does Ableton have built in pan law?
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Freeflow your music is a big inspiration.Thanks for all the help too  also kool link
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Freeflow
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 00:19
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Thanks a lot TimeTraveller! you make me happy! i think that must be the best compliment i ever got!
And all i can say is i think the same about your music!
i love the way you express your sounds...
if you ever feel like talking give me a PM! and ill give you my msn...
take care and tweak hard!
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-=Mandari=-
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 12:03
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ok,
i did not say its easy to learn, we have to keep in mind that mastering is the absolutely CHAMPAGNE CLASS in producing music.
and i dont wanna talk about well known ppl doin it theirself, cause imo and ppl i know, well known guys/girls dont do it theirself, they give it to a mastering engineer.
but its only good learning as much as u can about mastering, same like music there will never be an end!!!
with just a few tips and some pdf´s u wont get it too far, trust me. but u will get things much more forward than knowing nothing about it. i mean mastering techniques not only count on the whole track. they sure count on samples and other parts of your track too. u can get the hugest shit out of a boring sample if u know some way how to do it and how to process things. and sure mastering techniques give u the option to clean up your mix and so on.
everything goes hand in hand, its not only about produce a track or a sound.
u will not learn these things in few months or few years if u wanna do and learn all by yourself.
BUT its the best thing one can do as musician, as you will always have your own mind about soundscape and how the result should sound at the end, at this will mostly be different to the one of the engineer.
the wow effect from a mastered track is just because u dont know how things where managed there. the more u know, the more can be done....
so i think its good to learn about mastering and work with it, and sure for those who dont have the possibility to get their things mastered but play them on partys and bigger soundsystems than at home, its the only way.....
no...wait. i forgot to mention the elephant!!!!
so to get things just louder try voxengo elephant
just joking.....half way.
so sure its possible mastering your track yourself one day. u just need enough time to learn about everything.
i will load up some pdf stuff helped me a lot to clear things up and get more out of my music and showed me lot of things i didnt knew before. pls just be patient some hours, as im not working on my own computer right now.
i love to repeat myself,.... try to get things done without eq or compression. its really unnecessary if u work right on the source. better learn about synthesis than on using an eq or compression. if u did that all, eq and compression should be the last thing one learns before trying around with mastering stuff. AND ONLY in case u REALLY REALLY UNDERSTOOD these machines/plugins/techniques u should try around using them.....
fact is its better workin on a track with a clean mix people are interested in, so it will be released on a label and someone´s goin to master it. if u learned all about producing so that you´re far satisfied with your work, than u should learn about mastering.... think yourself about this sentence and the time mentioned in it.
im out of job actually and got so much time, i learn about everything i need to know. im not in mood workin on a track or sound, i go ahead and read about synthesis/mastering/mixing, watch tutorials whatever..... but i only can do this, cause i got the time for it. and sure it can be too much one time or get too much. one day u will get pretty confused by all the stuff in ya head and forget about music. u will get a technician/producer whatever. thats the reason why one should keep on workin on music before goin on to all this other stuff. on the other side its not wrong to know as much as possible about the other side, even if youre not used to it
hope this kinda helps, my pleasure: cheerz
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