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MARGHERITA
Master Margherita
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Meta
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Janue
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 09:20
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Well Actually i think that Mr Bush is capable of this and more,Like the iran war,he say he wanted to free this people, when actually all we know we wanted the Oil, he is a damn Retarted leading the most powerfull Nation a shame really, But hey Remeber No politics here  :D:D
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gaspard
Yab Yum
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 13:11
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i think bush n co. are responsible of far worse acts than tricking an election. conspiracy theory? maybe but maybe not!
this film seems to make a lot of sense to me! it seems a little too easy to brush ideas off as simple "conspiracy theories"...
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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lokus
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 15:36
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 17:42
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im with aeon, this bs is funny. you dont believe the media because its all "government propeganda" but u don't realise all these conspiracy thngies are the other side's prop. Bush is uncredible? ok fine, but michael more is ?!?!?!
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Meta
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 21:10
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On 2006-07-27 13:11, gaspard wrote:
it seems a little too easy to brush ideas off as simple "conspiracy theories"...
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Nothing should ever just be "brushed off", this is true. Watch the Loose Change movie if you want... but don't stop there, watch the Nova video as well. The point is that all of these 911 conspiracy theories have been *repeatedly debunked* by demolition experts, architects, aircraft pilots and eyewitnesses. WATCH THAT NOVA VIDEO.
Debunking things with scientific evidence and expert testimony is painstaking and boring - Loose Change wraps it all up in a nice convenient 90 minute package for you. Loose Change does present certain facts, but it presents them wrapped in speculation, out-of-context editing and specious reasoning and coincidences to paint things a certain way to fit their agenda. They are talent filmmakers, but they use the same manipulative tacticts as propoganda films.
There are two possibilities guys:
1) The American Government launched one of the most elaborate conspiracies in modern history using fake aircraft, secret demolition charges - that all functioned flawlessly despite getting hit by a plane, faked cellphone records and disappearing passengers, a vast media conspiracy to suppress evidence, coercing architects and demolition experts to cover up analysis, all in a complicated attempt to justify a war by destroying a national landmark and killing thousands of their own civilians... but the masterminds that did that aren't able to plant a single fake WMD in Iraq
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2) A bunch of Religious fanatics hijacked and crashed some planes because they are mad at us for supporting Israel
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gaspard
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 21:13
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2) A bunch of Religious fanatics hijacked and crashed some planes because they are mad at Israel
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if this is the case why are you worried about bush getting back into office... i mean he s the one orchestrating the war on terrorism. should be a good thing no?
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Meta
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 21:25
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Oh, he's a fucking disaster, no doubt... and yes, he as callously exploited the tragedy for his own benefit the entire time.
But if a 911 conspiracy was carried out by the same people that carried out the disastrously inept Iraq war... it never would have succeeded. This government has wasted billions of dollars and untold thousands of lives... and they couldn't even plant a single fake WMD.
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celsung
Celsung
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Posted : Aug 12, 2006 14:21
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On 2006-07-27 21:25, Aeon wrote:
Oh, he's a fucking disaster, no doubt... and yes, he as callously exploited the tragedy for his own benefit the entire time.
But if a 911 conspiracy was carried out by the same people that carried out the disastrously inept Iraq war... it never would have succeeded. This government has wasted billions of dollars and untold thousands of lives... and they couldn't even plant a single fake WMD.
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I agree. Believing that the Bush administration orchestrated this whole thing is giving them way too much credit. That is the problem with elaborate conspiracy theories... anyone who has worked for the government knows that things just simply don't function that smoothly, if at all. |
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gaspard
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Posted : Aug 12, 2006 17:17
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I agree. Believing that the Bush administration orchestrated this whole thing is giving them way too much credit. That is the problem with elaborate conspiracy theories... anyone who has worked for the government knows that things just simply don't function that smoothly, if at all.
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well thats the whole point, they didnt really pull it off...
to me it just seems that there is so much evidence against them... but maybe i m just gullable and want to believe it.
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Get-a-fix
Getafix
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Posted : Aug 12, 2006 22:51
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You know its easy for you people to dismiss this as a conspiracy theory since corruption is not that big of an issue in the western world..People from third world countries know the extent to which politicians and such are willing to go to further their motives..What's a few thousand lives for them when they get so much in return..
Are you so naive that you believe they found a passport amid all that rubble which allowed them to verify the identity of the hijackers?
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MercuryFall
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Posted : Aug 21, 2006 11:57
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yep, this video is really impessive... what about the free falling wtc? the 50's plan to kill people in florida to invade cuba? what hit the pentagon? was a plane ever crashed in pennsylvania?
sorry guys, there's too many mysteries here... and some US scholars agree with the movie and even teach this conspiracy theory as one possible to their auditory.
i'm going to see the debunk link here provided, but it 'd better be good!!! |
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gaspard
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Posted : Aug 25, 2006 15:47
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MARGHERITA
Master Margherita
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Posted : Sep 10, 2006 13:39
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Any greek translation around the web ???
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