loki
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Posted : Dec 5, 2010 07:46:07
One of the things that I've always really enjoyed in psychedelic trance music are it's long, evolving soundscapes... but it seems to be a current trend to use less and less of them!
the new dark/speedtrance stuff (which i don't dig often anyways) uses very little, instead favoring short, glitchy gated messes of sound... and the trend of minimal proggy stuff (which i do really dig, zenon ftw) favours trippy noises and extremely interesting sound design - but again, no long evolving sounds.
does anyone else remember how much those long, soaring melodies of x-dream, transwave, etc, just rock a dancefloor? even a simple hypnotic percussion line with some automation on reverb and hi-pass, for example, could totally fit in your average minimal proggy track... and make it so much more interesting!
and for the dark artists, why not take after ocelot and the like - plenty of speed and lots of mess, but long, evolving gated pads that really make the tunes coherent.
anyone?
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Posted : Dec 5, 2010 11:45
any examples of specific tracks you mean?
Because there is loads of proggy stuff with long delayed evolving pads imho. But maybe its something else you mean.
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Posted : Dec 5, 2010 12:05
I love long evolving atmospheric sounds, as long as they're weird and don't sound cheesy, and usually I try to transfuse a couple of them together. I also don't like only glitches and noisy leads, although I love dark.
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Shiranui
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Posted : Dec 5, 2010 14:26
I know it's not psytrance but this track is a good example of what the OP is talking about
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Posted : Dec 5, 2010 18:45
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On 2010-12-05 07:46:07, loki wrote:
One of the things that I've always really enjoyed in psychedelic trance music are it's long, evolving soundscapes... but it seems to be a current trend to use less and less of them!
the new dark/speedtrance stuff (which i don't dig often anyways) uses very little, instead favoring short, glitchy gated messes of sound... and the trend of minimal proggy stuff (which i do really dig, zenon ftw) favours trippy noises and extremely interesting sound design - but again, no long evolving sounds.
does anyone else remember how much those long, soaring melodies of x-dream, transwave, etc, just rock a dancefloor? even a simple hypnotic percussion line with some automation on reverb and hi-pass, for example, could totally fit in your average minimal proggy track... and make it so much more interesting!
and for the dark artists, why not take after ocelot and the like - plenty of speed and lots of mess, but long, evolving gated pads that really make the tunes coherent.
anyone?
That is what I also love much.If you consider track as a book,you have a storyline that secondary caracters,the ones that you do not see involve much as the main character of the book.They are in the background,and you read about them when they perform the development of the main character,and they somewhat evolve throw them.
To me musicwise,this is what drows me inside the track.Kick and percussions adds the groove to the track,but they somewhat kick you out of the hipnotic state (specially if they go fast).Sounds that go long and change as they go is the blanket that covers me and let me "live" the track without getting kicked out of trance kicks and stabby instruments.
Pads and sounds that roll around is what does it for me.
I don't like them metalic and acid leads much,but what works for me is when the lead starts with a low volume ,gets loud,and then I put a delay on the end of it.It rolls in the background,and after some time I bring it again in the front in full loudness,to end its roll-or it gets picked by another lead and it flows from there.
Sounds great,Cosmosis done that much in his "psychadelica melodica" with squelchy sounds...
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Posted : Dec 6, 2010 00:07
Would you call this a long evolving sound?
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Plasmorh
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Posted : Dec 6, 2010 03:18
Quote:
On 2010-12-05 07:46:07, loki wrote:
One of the things that I've always really enjoyed in psychedelic trance music are it's long, evolving soundscapes... but it seems to be a current trend to use less and less of them!
the new dark/speedtrance stuff (which i don't dig often anyways) uses very little, instead favoring short, glitchy gated messes of sound... and the trend of minimal proggy stuff (which i do really dig, zenon ftw) favours trippy noises and extremely interesting sound design - but again, no long evolving sounds.
does anyone else remember how much those long, soaring melodies of x-dream, transwave, etc, just rock a dancefloor? even a simple hypnotic percussion line with some automation on reverb and hi-pass, for example, could totally fit in your average minimal proggy track... and make it so much more interesting!
and for the dark artists, why not take after ocelot and the like - plenty of speed and lots of mess, but long, evolving gated pads that really make the tunes coherent.
anyone?
i think this 1 has some evolving sounds throughout the song...
like the donodonodonodono synth xD @1.24
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magner
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Posted : Dec 6, 2010 10:09
the album of blue planet corp 'blue planet', fantastic.
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Posted : Dec 6, 2010 13:15
Yeeeah, the first track posted here is quite the guy <3
i'd say using long evolving sounds is a different alternative to using leads like the way most fullon music do these days.
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loki
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Posted : Dec 7, 2010 06:49
wtf, psykovsky as an example? fail.
the first track posted is more what i was talking about. those trance leads with slow, slow cutoff automation can be incredibly hypnotic.
think vibrasphere's erosion in its entirety - not quite psytrance, but definitely still excellent on a festival dancefloor and a stellar tune to dance to. what really brings the tune together is that pad that starts to fade in at 2:34 - slowly. very slowly. but it's absolutely engrossing, and ties together those choir-like sounds drenched in reverb at 4 minutes in.
this stuff is lacking in, say... well, that gentleman was kind enough to post a psykovsky tune in here already, so i won't post another example of what i absolutely wasn't talking about at all.
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