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Logic Sidechain Compression (popping)

EtherealMotive
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Posted : Aug 25, 2009 19:10:28
Hello, I'm having a hard time figuring out why the sidechain keeps popping every time the kick hits? the only way to get rid of it is to add attack, but then when I add attack it just defeats the purpose of sidechaining because it doesn't sidechain when I need it too. Any suggestions?
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 25, 2009 22:12
The popping is because the sidechain is coming in very quickly when it gets a trigger. Add just enough attack to get rid of the popping, but not enough so that the timing of the sidechain effect is changed; should only need a couple of ms.

Alternatively, the chances are the popping will be completely unnoticeable in the track itself, because it will be masked by the kick, so you could possiblyh just ignore it.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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EtherealMotive
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Posted : Aug 26, 2009 00:46
ok, thanks. Is there any other alternative ideas?
EtherealMotive
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Posted : Aug 26, 2009 16:15
I have to take off like 16 ms to stop the popping, which is a big difference for bass frequencies to get squashed to prevent phasing. Also, even if the sound was somewhat masked by the kick (which its not, you can hear it quite a bit, shifting the kicks high end sound) what if I want the bass going solo? I'd hear the popping then.
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 03:43
I think Colin summed it up quite nicely...
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 15:05
at 16ms attack, it is unlikely for the compressor to create artifacts in sound. Probably your compressor settings are too extreme.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 27, 2009 15:50
Yeah, try increasing the threshold and/or reducing the ratio; you might need to take the gain down to compensate.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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EtherealMotive
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Posted : Aug 30, 2009 02:41
Ok, thanks guys. I'll shall experiment.
Zero-Blade
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Posted : Sep 26, 2009 00:31
Don't overcompress the chained sound. I had such a problem when I started using sc.

Try thresh around -20db, attack 3ms, release 30ms, ratio 8:1 and than start fine tuning them.           Triplag Music
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Posted : Oct 11, 2009 15:48
try to use the platinum circuit, i found it's the less invasive and more precise one for sidechaining
VCA, CLASS_A and Fet are very violent when pumped hard, need to change all parameters when tweaking for bass
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Posted : Oct 12, 2009 12:38
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On 2009-10-11 15:48, PsyGalaXy wrote:
try to use the platinum circuit, i found it's the less invasive and more precise one for sidechaining
VCA, CLASS_A and Fet are very violent when pumped hard, need to change all parameters when tweaking for bass




+1. I use a low ratio fastest attack and everything drops the way I want it to. I don't want it to be completely transparent, I like a bit of pumping, but just slight. Don't over do it as well, the only times I drop the gain more than 3dB is on drum loops that have little hits in them that I want to loose and I can't be asked to edit audio at every kick trigger, layered sub lines on non 16th single saw basslines and on pads and long delay/reverb effects so I purposely drop the gain more and make the effect more apparent.
But the old platinum circuit is generally the way to go for clean results.
          
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