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Devius
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Posted : Aug 4, 2013 21:12:12
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Hey guys,
i'm in need of some enlightenment on Logic's overall External Midi and Environment, since i'm struggling to setup my Virus C in multi-single mode without some odd drawbacks.
Since i got my Virus i've been using it with single programs only, i always had an audio track setup, send it some notes and bounce to audio -> move on to another sound.
But now for the last 2 days i'm delving deeper into it's functionalities and trying to use it in multi-single mode, so i can create various layers for bigger loops, use the same sound in more ways in a 8 bar loop or 16, and automate the sounds instead of processing them in logic.
I can do this alright, so far, with some setups that i've learned reading on the internet and with some readings on the Virus manual.
The problem comes when i have, for instance, one audio track with both L and R inputs from the Virus, being played by an external midi track that i setup right next to it. I turn on input monitoring on the audio track, and if i have that audio track selected with the cursor i can listen to the notes that i wrote on the other one for the Virus to play. However, if i then select the midi track that plays the notes, the audio from the Virus starts to act weird and sending stuff that is not written for it to play. I always had this problem, when i want to send midi to the virus and listen to what it plays and tweak, i always need to remember to select the audio track first, is this normal ?
Also, when i have the external midi track setup in logic and i have some other softsynths with patterns written on them and select that track, they not only play those patterns as they also play the one written on the external midi track.. so always have to select an audio track of some sort to be able to listen to them correctly 
By the way my overall setup is:
Virus analog OUT -> Audiobox22VSL 2x1/4" IN
Virus Midi Thru -> 22VSL IN
22VSL Midi OUT -> Virus Midi IN
Then i have the novation impulse connected via usb to the mbp, and i never been able to play the virus with it except if i connect it's Midi OUT to the Virus midi IN, which would prevent me from sending midi clock from Logic to the Virus via the audio interface.
I also have a nanokontrol and a maschine connected but those always work fine and don't really matter for this issue i think.
Sorry for long post, i'm just loosing my head around this and decided to ask here, i know some of you are long-time logic users and also there's some Viruses around 
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 5, 2013 02:04
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hey, if you press "cmd+8" Logic will open the environment window. then you need to select "midi instruments", delete the one that's there by default - if that's the case -, create a new multi-instrument, specify the midi ports you're using. and that's it, then it's a matter of the midi channels. you still need to make the multi-patch on the Virus though.
another way to go is downloading from Access's website their environment thing for Virus C for Logic, follow the instructions and you're good to go.
you need midi in and out for this to work properly.
hope this helps! |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 5, 2013 02:30
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oh, and your Logic is behaving super weird. Never ran into such trouble myself. The thing is, I don't have even the slightest clue where you should look to fix that.
But try to connect the Virus with the Midi in and out instead of the midi through. Could it be that you're routing the midi out of the daw into the Virus but for everything that's selected? Bet it's just some configuration problem that should be easy to solve |
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Devius
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Posted : Aug 7, 2013 01:59
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Yes bro you're right ! I connected it with the midi out instead of thru and the Virus is behaving correctly in Logic now.
Now i gotta figure out how to record knob automations, any hints on this subject ? |
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Devius
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Posted : Aug 7, 2013 02:27
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nice, i noticed i am able to write some movements on logic's hyper draw and they're sent to the virus by selecting the proper controller to modulate. Now i'm wondering if i can latch those movements from the virus instead of selecting the controller in logic. |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Aug 7, 2013 06:59
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On 2013-08-07 02:27, Devius wrote:
nice, i noticed i am able to write some movements on logic's hyper draw and they're sent to the virus by selecting the proper controller to modulate. Now i'm wondering if i can latch those movements from the virus instead of selecting the controller in logic.
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I don't think you can. but please send me PM if such a thing turns out to be possible. I haven't really explored the possibilities in depth, I found something that works for what I do and stuck to it. I don't even use Multi on the Virus. I save the patches to disk using MidiQuest's software, bounce as I go and recall the patches if I need more phrases or to make changes of any kind. one of the reasons I think I'd love the TI is that: must save a whole lot of trouble and make things easier. but on the other hand, that's just what plug-ins do and the Virus - making me thing more like Old analogue days, having to record what I do and kind of pre think what goes well with what - has inspired me to make much better music then I did before. But yeah, being able to preview a lot of sounds from it is cool.
you can also open the "lists" menu on the top-right corner of Logic, select the "Event" and you can draw with your pencil a midi thing on the Arrangement window, choose the right CC for the parameter you want and draw automation for it! it's pretty smooth to, I don't feel that it lags one bit, very responsive!
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