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LOGIC / CUBASE - BASIC DIFFERENCES
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Gugha
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Posted : Jul 25, 2003 05:01
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HOW GUYS ,
I WANNA NOW WICH ARE THE BASIC DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS TWO PROGRAMS !
TKS
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mlazar
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Posted : Jul 29, 2003 05:28
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I'll try to kick this one off the most objectively as possible...
First, both programs do inline audio/video/midi. so does Nuendo for that matter so we may just want to include Nuendo in this discussion since it has a much higher price tag. 
Both programs support screen sets. This is new in SX and OLD in Logic. As of 1.06 now screensets seem stable. 1.02 crashed for days.
This is another aspect of the two programs; they both have bugs--before SX 1.06 Cubase had a LOT more showstoppers than Logic. Now I find that logic has less showstoppers but the audio handling in SX has gotten much better, which helps me segway to the next point:
SX has Rewire2 which allows you to edit Reason inline with Cubase SX. Logic users have rewire1 where they have to enter the sequences in Reason and get the audio routed into the effect channels in Logic. Further I hear reports that Reason runs great under ASIO with Logic, but I have yet to see that happen. For me I move a note with nothing but Logic and Reason open (no extraness at all) and I get ASIO overload messages--no such problems in SX.
I'm not knocking Logic at all--in fact in spite of these problems I still find it hard to drop Logic--even though I should drop it out of resentment for Apple b/c I want logic 6 and am not into mac hardware.
Currently I am researching all of the thing I would want to do in Logic's environment and seeing if I can do the same things with Cubase. Although it is laid out differenly it has many of the same things that Logic has building-blocks for, but you can't do things like route a transformer to an arpeggiator to a splitter back through another transformer through a mixer out to several midi VST tracks or other crazy things like that. Also Logic is centered around routing so you can route busses to busses to busses and there is no limit on the number of VSTis you can use; only the limitation of your computer so either way is plenty. Watch me scream running Trilogy and Absynth at the same time before bouncing one of them. hehe
lots of rambling, not enough time--back to mastering!
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Trip-
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Posted : Jul 29, 2003 15:58
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I think the bottom line would be:
a plus for Logic:
Logic is very user-customizable. You setup up your own working area the way you like it most.
Midi editing is the best I know of any. And of course all the mentioned enviroment and mixing capabilities.
In Cubase it's all very setup for you - you just need to adjust to how cubase wants it more than how you want it.
a plus for Cubase:
Friendly with multiout VSTi, audio editing is much nicer and maybe the System link feature...
In Logic some VSTi don't work as they shouldw ith multi out and the audio editing is pretty much a thing to get used to - I still can't.
cheers.
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mlazar
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Posted : Jul 31, 2003 16:00
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Here is another one.
In cubase you can snap your audio parts at 1 beat, up to 64th notes triplet (64T)/double(D). Logic does this also but in Logic the audio you copy/move is not just snapped to your preference slice but it also (especially on beat) will keep the sample relative to the measure.
This means when you have a sample on a dotted 8th note you don't have to keep finding that snap point as you would be in Cubase. Logic snaps you to the next relative position to where the sample was. A very nice feature I must say I have not coerced Cubase to do this yet--can it be done?
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VCO
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Posted : Jul 31, 2003 17:22
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Does Cubase have, those invaluable to me, software fades for the regions (the one on the parameter box, top left,)? That helps me get rid of glitches from audio that cuts at non-zero-cross-points + you can do it for all of the regions that fall into that audio track simultaneously.
I also love Logic cause you can set it up the way you want to, and do not have to follow guide lines that you might not like.
The Logic plug-ins are far better than SX's as well.
Also great is that you can go into the sample editor of an audio file with a loud transient and pul the top bar to bring that transient right on the start of the bar (or wherever for that matter).
I love Logic's arpeggiator as well, does SX have something like that?
Logic sounded batter than VST as well...I do not know if this is the case with SX.
Pressing Alt+Shift bypasses the snap immediatelly, and lets you slide the region/MIDI event/note wherever you want...which is cool.
Also you can use Logic to chop up say a drum loop fast, save the files in a folder and do import multiple samples in EXS 24. That does Recycle's job fast and efficiently for those that do not have the program.
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