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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jan 30, 2004 16:46
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Hi, all logic users out there probably know this annoying sentence that helps so much in breaking creativity when doing a track: ...
"Asio Overload - The audio engine was not able to process all required data in time. (-10011)" - (CPU wents over 100%)
I've had this problem a lot with win98, changed to xp and everything was going ok until now...In my new track I keep having this, and it totally breaks my creation process, not even to talk about how to export the track if this keeps happening...
Im in a 2.0Ghz P4, with 512mb ram, I've set up my computer so its better for music, all other applications are switched of (my applications). Not the system applications, because I don't know wich ones are ok to shut down...
My question is:
What value u use for the DMA buffer latency in the sound card?Should I increse latency?Aren't the sounds going to be out of sinc if i put too much (I have 1280 now, wich is already a lot i reckon, isn't it?) . By the way, im using the delta audiophile
And what about the logic settings?
(audio > audio preferences > audio driver 2 tab, for asio)
What is the Max. Scrub Speed?
What do the "software monitoring" and the "larger disk buffer" tick do?
And what values to set for the "Asio Buffer Delay" "In" and "out"?
So far my track has got :
12 midi tracks all with esx24 samplers and fx,
18 audio tracks (recorded sinths and some samples) also with fx,
and 6 bus channels with compressors and reverbs,
Im sure my computer plays this if is set up ok, it played more b4
What is heavier for the system, audio tracks or midi tracks?
I didn't want do bounce the midi tracks to audio, because then I won't be able to edit again...
Another thing, my hard disk is quite full, could that be a reason?
Well, thanks 4 the time to read the post, any comments u can give that u think might help are very appreciated
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Trip-
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Posted : Jan 30, 2004 16:56
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ur buffer is 1200 now ?
that's alot
there's nothing else u can do, but bounce tracks, and import as audio
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jan 30, 2004 16:59
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yeah, i know 1280 is a lot...
what would be a good value?
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Trip-
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Posted : Jan 30, 2004 17:15
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just leave it when the sound is good and cpu is not overloaded too much
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jan 30, 2004 18:20
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yes, that helps, but still overloading like crazy...
would it help if the disk wasn't so full?or in other way, does having more things on the disc decreases speed?
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ZilDoggo
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Posted : Jan 30, 2004 19:18
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dont forget to occasionally defragment your disks!.,
this could be your problem.,
also make sure you have space left on your boot disk for the swap file .,
not sure if this could be your problem but it's a good thing anyway.,
things that influence this are:
disk speed/performance
cpu speed
buffer size
grts,
aka!.,
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Boogieman
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Posted : Jan 31, 2004 06:25
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nick
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Posted : Jan 31, 2004 08:19
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I'm not sure if this is still relevant as I encountered this problem with Logic 4.x on Win Me and pulsar sound card (I've swtiched to mac since) but a friend with the same problem solved it by raising the priority of the Logic app in windows.. |
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Trip-
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Posted : Jan 31, 2004 08:27
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raising priority might halt the whole OS
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medir
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Posted : Jan 31, 2004 19:11
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aloah fluoro
Max. Scrub Speed = data reading form disk ( doubles uses more cpu, but data is cleaner )
"software monitoring" = monitoring done by logic ( otherwise soundcard if possible. --> input objects can be heard only if activated )
"larger disk buffer" = increases amout of data during one read-action --> more audiotracks but more usage of ram ( --> disk too slow )
process buffer range = the higher the more fx u can use but the worster becomes latency
asio buffer delay only good for live-acts. better use the delay in the arrangewindow.
try also to use as less audiotracks ( default 24 ) n busses as possible. ( eats cpu too )
also switch off all non-used sync functions ( best internal sync )
about full harddisk: as long as defragment is possible it should work fine.
btw, like "deep attched"...pSyCoDeLiC =(-X
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jan 31, 2004 20:38
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Hey guys
Thanks a lot for all the tips, as always you've been very helpfull
ZilDoggo, yeah, i tend to defragment every couple of weeks but thanks for advice
Boogieman, yeah, i want to increase to 1Gb ram, but that is not my problem, its the cpu going up thats making the crashes, not the ram
Nick, i've set the priority up one time, and things went horribly wrong, hehe, its didn;t do no good for my OS as trip said also...but thanks anyway man
Medirium, thanks a lot for all the info, yes, i have put less soundtracks and it helped (and glad u liked the tune )
Anyway, I spent all day yesterday trying to get this thingy to work, triyng 1001 diferent asio settings, hehe, as i couldn't finish my tune with this crashig all the time, and seems that things are working ok now, even better than before I think and the tune is finished
Thanks a lot for all the great tips ppl
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monno
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Posted : Feb 3, 2004 03:08
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whenever an asio error occors to me for no apparant reason ie. no obvious load is being put on the cpu and still an overload occurs, i start bypassing plugins untill i find the guilty sinner it will usually be the more obscure plugins that excibit this behaviour. also denormalisation could have a role to play (especially on a p4) for more info on this search here or on google for denormalisation+p4.
about the audio driver tab and all the rest of logics audio settings i mostly leave them at default so it shouldn´t be the settings in logic that causes any problems especially since it has worked fine for you before.
also make sure that priority is given to background tasks and system cache (an oldie i know, but still worth mentioning).
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kada
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Posted : Feb 4, 2004 02:07
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This bug is a litte bit strange.
I using Mac (Os 9). It has ocurred in some parts of the song,but only for the first time i open my project.
But after the first advice it rolls perfect!
Can't be a matter of 'mute the fx'. I have try this but no result.
When i clean all audio from the timeline and start another project (from the old one) the problem persists on same way,same time marker, and only for the first time i open my project.
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Feb 4, 2004 03:39
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yeah, that happens to me sometimes also kada...
i'm not sure about it, but i would suppose, that after the first time you listen, information about it is put in ram memory or in cache memory, and so next time u play, system can access it faster...
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kada
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Posted : Feb 4, 2004 15:04
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Yes Fluor...seems to be something like this..
i litte bit silly bug,but for a while i can live with this.
(Although it's not the kind of bug a wish to get on a live set...)
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